[Dewlap]

I have a stock set-up currently.
I want to start riding some enduros. I'm a 'C' rider.
There are way too many choices for bars, dampeners, triple clams, and computers. And maybe much of it is just personal preferences.

I'd like to gather some info from those who have various set-ups. What do you like or dislike and why?

Is a new triple clamp a 'must' have, i.e BRP?

I'm thinking of Pro-Taper woods
http://www.protaper.com/eastonbars.html
with a Scotts sub or top mount?

OR Scotts complete pkg for $700

http://www.scottsperformance.com/tripleclampkit.php

It seems like too much crap to have on the bars with my Cycra probends bar mounts




Plus I'd like to get a Trail Tech on the bars too
http://trailtech.net/atv_computer_kits_1.htm

Finally, install (1 being like changing oil and 5 = to specialized tools and experience required)?

Thanks!



This seems pretty complete, image from Trail Tech

[HKE PUK]

Bars are such a personal thing. I'm planning on spending some time in a major retailer's bar room (yes, room) to touch and feel.

Most run the submount, but I know Doug runs the standard above-bar mount.

On the Trail Tech, I'd suggest getting the billet protector. It's the only way to mount with any protection and places the unit in a perfect place for viewing. (The stock plastic mounting "hardware" is a joke.) The billet protector mounts to the top of the bar clamps so it doesn't clutter up the bars.

Do a quick search and you can view some pix of this set-up.

Good Luck!

[Smash]

Bars are completely "personal preferences".

You do not need new triple clamps. Guys that change them do so for several reasons: Strength (although stockers are very strong), Looks (Anodized Billet is "pretty"), different offset (22 or 20) that give you more precise cornering (but sacrifice high speed stability).

Barclamps are also subjective. If you are going with a Scotts damper, you can go over the bars or under the bars.

Over the bars is easier to adjust on the fly, but is more dangerous because of impact hazard.

SUB mount (under) is safer but harder to adjust on the fly.

The Cycra Probends mount nicely to the bars. They can also be mounted to the triple clamps. There are other options like the Fastway system that ties into the barclamps.

Ernie Pezz has a nice set up with the BRP submount and the Woods bars, check out his pics.

Here's a pic of my set up:

38.8 miles, you need to ride more.....

[Asmith]

38.8 miles, you need to ride more.....

I want to keep it "Low Miles" so I can sell it for more when the CRF 600X hits the showroom floor.

[KevinM]

38.8 miles, you need to ride more.....

I want to keep it "Low Miles" so I can sell it for more when the CRF 600X hits the showroom floor.

damn.. beat me to it...

[gj2slick]

I prefer the stock bars with the( Scotts Damper A must)
the only mod I had to do was notch my x-bar pad.
Looks like your bar area is going to be busy,so maybe A non x-bar pair of bars might be the ticket.

SLICK...

[Dewlap]

AS -thanks! That looks good. I'd just want to remove odometer and replace w/ trail tech. I believe it would be a direct bolt on to the bar risers?

gj- I think you are correct that computer would be too much or be blocked from sight line.

[Rocky Mountain Rider]

I have the exact set up you are talking about. Pro taper Woods high bars, Scotts damper, Trail tech endurance computer, cycra pro bends. I went with an applied upper clamp because of the damper. The applied damper mount does not line up with the holes on the stock triple. I love the setup. It handles great and I have had no issues with the above the bar damper. The trail tech bolts right up to the stock odo mount with no problem. The only thing I would change is that I would have (probably will) change my pro bend mounting position to the top triple instead of on the bars. It does get a little cluttered. All of the work you are looking at doing is easy if you just read the instructions that come with the stuff. I don't know how to post pictures on here but if you look at the webpage below it shows the set up from a top view.

[HKE PUK]

FYI: Unlike the Endurance, the Vapor does not bolt right up to the stock odo bracket. I ended up removing all of the stock odo hardware and mounting with the billet protector to the risers.

[Roady]

Honestly not trying to be argumentitive and I agree with AS often, but

You do not need new triple clamps. Guys that change them do so for several reasons: Strength (although stockers are very strong), Looks (Anodized Billet is "pretty"), different offset (22 or 20) that give you more precise cornering (but sacrifice high speed stability).

The 22mm triples improve the handling tremendously and make the bike feel significantly more nimble and lighter. If running a stabilizer, you will not feel any difference in high speed stability.

Over the bars is easier to adjust on the fly, but is more dangerous because of impact hazard.

I have been running above mount steering stabilizers since '94 and have never had any safety issues with them (and believe me I have thrown it away many times in those dozen years). I like the uncluttered benefits of the sub-mount since I have so much other crap on my bars and would probably go that route if I had it to do over, but I can't agree with an above mount being a safety issue. Now this GPS mount ... that could be an impact risk (although it has never been a problem either)!



If you like the stock bars, the Pro-Tapers Windham bend is a match.

[Skoot22]

Here is my setup, BRP submount,Scott's, Henery/Reed Pro Tapers

[Asmith]

Honestly not trying to be argumentitive and I agree with AS often, but

Oh Yeah!!!

I get what you are saying...mostly what I was laying out for our new member were answers to his questions.

Taken out of that context, they may not make sense.

He was wondering if he had to get new triples in order to run the damper. I told him "No" but there were reasons to change them. I don't think anything I told him was incorrect. The 22's will make the bike more unstable at high speed. The fact that a damper will negate the effect is reason to buy a damper.

I still believe that running the above bar is inherently more dangerous. I don't think you can make the case that it is not. Having not impacted it yet, doesn't fit the bill.

Having said that, all of the winning Baja racers, i.e. Johnny Campbell et al, run the above bar mount.

[Roady]

Honestly not trying to be argumentitive and I agree with AS often, but

Oh Yeah!!!

I get what you are saying...mostly what I was laying out for our new member were answers to his questions.

Taken out of that context, they may not make sense.

He was wondering if he had to get new triples in order to run the damper. I told him "No" but there were reasons to change them. I don't think anything I told him was incorrect. The 22's will make the bike more unstable at high speed. The fact that a damper will negate the effect is reason to buy a damper.

I still believe that running the above bar is inherently more dangerous. I don't think you can make the case that it is not. Having not impacted it yet, doesn't fit the bill.

Having said that, all of the winning Baja racers, i.e. Johnny Campbell et al, run the above bar mount.

I think we just read different questions into his post. I think/thought he was asking about the triples in the context of "are they all that" ... I tend to think they are. That being my opinion doesn't mean your opinion is wrong (although clearly it is )

With regards to safety of the above vs. the below mount I will concede that the above mount is more dangerous to the same degree that tylenol is more dangerous than ibuprofen ...

[Asmith]

I think we just read different questions into his post. I think/thought he was asking about the triples in the context of "are they all that" ... I tend to think they are. That being my opinion doesn't mean your opinion is wrong (although clearly it is )

Re-reading his post you may be right. I didn't notice the little single quotes around 'must have'.

The 22 degree offset will most likely be a future mod to my bike based on your opinion...flawed as it is.

With regards to safety of the above vs. the below mount I will concede that the above mount is more dangerous to the same degree that tylenol is more dangerous than ibuprofen ...

Good analogy!!! Cause when your liver impacts on that Scotts above bar, your Doctor will tell you not to take Tylenol due to your reduced liver function...

[Roady]

I'm tapping out ... You should think about a career in politics AS .... I'm left feeling like I won and lost after this exchange!