Welcome to the site !I had a similar problem and in the end it was a weak ignition coil in the alternator. The kickstarter spins the crank a bit faster so you get a bit higher voltage to the CDI. To troubleshoot the problem you need a decent multimeter to measure the ohms on the ignition coil on the alternator because literally a few ohms can make a big difference. In this situation 17ohms would be weak and say 20 ohms good. Reasons for a weak starter typically point to the oil it sits in, not lubricity but rather its ability to dissipate heat. I've heard GN4 is generally good but it may not cool the alternator as good as others. A Honda service manual also has a method of testing the output of the ignition coil but it involves additional test equipment but it is accurate. A cheaper alternative to OEM would be a Trailtech stator and flywheel. Hopefully this helps, it was my problem for a couple years.
Chris
Yes he is talking about Piston RingsI think I have the same problem, what rings is he talking about? piston rings? This problem suddenly appeared in my bike, only difference is when I press Electric starter button inly makes a click and won´t turn over the starter motor.
Yes, my bike starts when I give it a stern glare.Hi Guys,
Firstly thank you for all the great input - it really helped a lot!!
Secondly it is all sorted out )))))))
I decided to redo the shimms and while I was at it thought I would replace the rings.
Now the bike starts even before I push the starter
Thanks again!
Thank you Jim, that´s great and detailed info I´ll do that.As a added thought , replace the gas with FRESH Premium , if as your saying , it take a bit of effort to kick start it , then i would guess if it sat for more than a month (anything over 3 and you need to completely clean the carb and either clean or replace the pilot jet) the gas could be going bad , especially if it has Ethanol in it , i run a mixture of 110 Octane Av Gas (from the local private airport) and 91+ Octane Non Ethanol Premium , i mix 1 gallon of Av Gas to 1-1/2 gal of the Premium , bikes start right up even after sitting for several months , and the jets stay clear
It sounds like its really lean on the Pilot circuit , so i am guessing the Pilot Jet is clogged or mostly clogged , its really easier to just replace it rather than try to clean it , especially if you don't have the proper cleaning tool
If it has to be started with the choke on and it tries to die when shutting off the choke , then that is a sure sign the pilot circuit is clogged , and/or the Hot Start is gummed up and stuck partially or all the way open , and is causing the lean condition , the hot start is located on the left side of the carb up near the top , it has a black cable that comes from the small lever at the clutch perch , and a black plastic nut (be careful not to strip the soft threads and/or the plastic nut) (10mm) and if it gets gummed up and has varnish in the opening and on the brass of the Hot Start Plunger , then it will hold the lean circuit open just like if you were holding the lever down when trying to start the bike after a fall , where it flooded ... so pay close attention to that as well ......
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