[mikey526]

or why don't you get him a good condition cr85, their cheap and easy to look after, he'd probly have more fun on it than the 150f and the 150r

why are you sooo obsessed with smokers??? He'd have more fun on a 125, but an 85 is just dumb.. the 150r is way more fun I've ridden both man.

what r u talking about you own a cr125

Oh yeah... but I do have a 150R so...

[DocCRF-X250]

That is another question. What are the 2 stroke 85 or 125 bikes like? A friend had a kawi 125 and it road terrible compared to my bike? Are the smokers comparible?

[mikey526]

That is another question. What are the 2 stroke 85 or 125 bikes like? A friend had a kawi 125 and it road terrible compared to my bike? Are the smokers comparible?

A 125 would be too big for an 11 year old. They can be very intimidating and hard to ride unless you are willing to always stay on the pipe.. they can't really be ridden casually. 85's are similar, except the Honda and Yamahas don't have power valves so they are very difficult to ride especially for a newer rider. Of course, they get easier to ride and will teach your kid to ride well, but the 150's are overall better.

[redrider250r]

Doc get your son the 150r. I'm 5'10 and rode a 100F for 2 months before i got my 150RB. The 150r is a great bike and is very light weight. I've ridden a friends 150F and its just big and heavy. If you get our son the 150r (not the 150RB) you can get a sprocket with less teeth or a flywheel weight to calm down the torque.