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Serial Number Help!!

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:39 pm
by 15106crf450
As the title says, I need some help. I just bought a bike and when it arrived the serial number had been scratched off! Is there any reason to scratch off the serial number of the frame?

Re: Serial Number Help!!

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:48 pm
by Asmith
15106crf450 wrote:As the title says, I need some help. I just bought a bike and when it arrived the serial number had been scratched off! Is there any reason to scratch off the serial number of the frame?


Two reasons:

1) Makes the bike about 1 gram lighter for racing.

2) Keeps the Police from knowing who was the original owner that the bike was stolen from.

second AS

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 7:43 pm
by SoCal450R
I second Agent Most likely a stolen bike. I had friends i used to hang out with that would steal honda and acura engines and would destroy the serial or vin numbers to hide the original owner info.

Re: second AS

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 7:48 pm
by nedirtbikr
SoCal450R wrote:I used to hang out with that would steal honda and acura engines and would destroy the serial or vin numbers to hide the original owner info.
Uh...yes, Mr. SoCal450R? We have some questions we'd like to ask you....

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 8:10 pm
by BigD
are you serious?? Little suspicious if you ask me.....Hope the real owner doesn't notice you on the trail!

Re: second AS

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 12:32 am
by SoCal450R
nedirtbikr wrote:
SoCal450R wrote:I used to hang out with that would steal honda and acura engines and would destroy the serial or vin numbers to hide the original owner info.
Uh...yes, Mr. SoCal450R? We have some questions we'd like to ask you....


Haha nice but like i said friends did it not me.....lol and i think statue of limitations ran out

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 5:42 am
by 15106crf450
It is nor totally scratched off. Do you have to have the whole number to find out year? It looks like it has been scratched with a screwdriver, so maybe I can lightly sand it and see more of the numbers. Any suggestions.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 7:05 am
by Asmith
15106crf450 wrote:It is nor totally scratched off. Do you have to have the whole number to find out year? It looks like it has been scratched with a screwdriver, so maybe I can lightly sand it and see more of the numbers. Any suggestions.


That is why stuff is stamped not engraved.

These idiots can grind off the serial numbers, and the Police can still get the numbers.

When metal is stamped, the grains of the metal are smashed. This goes deep into the metal underneath the stamped area.

The stamped area can be polished smooth and then an etchant such as Keller's etch (hydroflouric acid) can be applied to the metal. The areas where the grains have been smashed will turn darker and the number will become apparent.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 12:19 pm
by 15106crf450
Can I buy the acid somewhere? I need to find out what's up with this bike, or buy a frame with a title off of ebay or someone.

Re: second AS

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 2:40 pm
by Roady
SoCal450R wrote:Haha nice but like i said friends did it not me.....lol and i think statue of limitations ran out


Personally wouldn't shrug it off as funny. In case you don't know, "receiving stolen goods" is a felony. You don't have to be the one that stole it, just the one in possesion of it.

Don't think you will find any support here on how to mask a stolen bike and I sure don't see any other reasonable explanation for what you describe.

Karma buddy, what goes around comes around. My advice is to contact the appropriate authorities and ask for help determining if it is legit so you can register it, or turn it in so it can go to it's rightful owner and be thankful you only lose the cash associated with its purchase. If you get caught with it and it is stolen, you will be out a whole lot more money than what you spent purchasing it and won't get any sympathy from any of us.

BigD wrote:are you serious?? Little suspicious if you ask me.....Hope the real owner doesn't notice you on the trail!


Hope he does.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 2:46 pm
Keeps the Police from knowing who was the original owner that the bike was stolen from.

What Roady said,exactly.
This subject is far from funny, and that bike is far from legitimate. There's no reason in the world to scratch on a serial number.
Some poor guy went to his garage or vehicle and found his bike that he paid for or was paying for gone.
Do the right thing and get the cops involved. Doug

Re: second AS

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 2:49 pm
by rkadair
Roady wrote:
15106crf450 wrote:Haha nice but like i said friends did it not me.....lol and i think statue of limitations ran out


Personally wouldn't shrug it off as funny. In case you don't know, "receiving stolen goods" is a felony. You don't have to be the one that stole it, just the one in possesion of it.

Don't think you will find any support here on how to mask a stolen bike and I sure don't see any other reasonable explanation for what you describe.

Karma buddy, what goes around comes around. My advice is to contact the appropriate authorities and ask for help determining if it is legit so you can register it, or turn it in so it can go to it's rightful owner and be thankful you only lose the cash associated with its purchase. If you get caught with it and it is stolen, you will be out a whole lot more money than what you spent purchasing it and won't get any sympathy from any of us.

BigD wrote:are you serious?? Little suspicious if you ask me.....Hope the real owner doesn't notice you on the trail!


Hope he does.



You need to stop smoking the funny stuff and learn to quote the right person.

Re: second AS

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 3:01 pm
by Roady
rkadair wrote:
Roady wrote:
SoCal450R wrote:Haha nice but like i said friends did it not me.....lol and i think statue of limitations ran out


Personally wouldn't shrug it off as funny. In case you don't know, "receiving stolen goods" is a felony. You don't have to be the one that stole it, just the one in possesion of it.

Don't think you will find any support here on how to mask a stolen bike and I sure don't see any other reasonable explanation for what you describe.

Karma buddy, what goes around comes around. My advice is to contact the appropriate authorities and ask for help determining if it is legit so you can register it, or turn it in so it can go to it's rightful owner and be thankful you only lose the cash associated with its purchase. If you get caught with it and it is stolen, you will be out a whole lot more money than what you spent purchasing it and won't get any sympathy from any of us.

BigD wrote:are you serious?? Little suspicious if you ask me.....Hope the real owner doesn't notice you on the trail!


Hope he does.



You need to stop smoking the funny stuff and learn to quote the right person.


Thought I had corrected a mis-quote and somehow got it sideways. Thanks for immediately jumping in the mud though and accusing me of being high .... nice.

Can certainly understand why you would need to defend against a mis-quote attributed to:

15106crf450 wrote:Can I buy the acid somewhere? I need to find out what's up with this bike, or buy a frame with a title off of ebay or someone.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 3:32 pm
by SoCal450R
Roady lets see it was back in high school I never said I recieved anything so quate me on that. and I had nothing to do with it.....so feel free to accuse me of anything I'm not part of. And like i said it was over 8 years ago if I had done anything the statue of limitations would kick in.

On other note I never said it was funny it sucks I had cars and stuff stolen from me...not cool. Everything I have owned has be legit and paid for by me. So go quate me all you want

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 4:44 pm
by Roady
SoCal450R wrote:Roady lets see it was back in high school I never said I recieved anything so quate me on that. and I had nothing to do with it.....so feel free to accuse me of anything I'm not part of. And like i said it was over 8 years ago if I had done anything the statue of limitations would kick in.

On other note I never said it was funny it sucks I had cars and stuff stolen from me...not cool. Everything I have owned has be legit and paid for by me. So go quate me all you want


Trying to make a point about someone with what sounds like a stolen bike asking what to do.

Apologize if I took it to far with you. A bit over zealous perhaps attempting to make a point. I did not mean to imply you (or anyone on this tread for that matter) is a thief.