Toy hauler advice
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    ROBAK
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    Toy hauler advice

    by ROBAK » Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:22 am

    I'm looking for advice on toy haulers.

    I've been using a flatbed with my pickup for the last 20 years and I think it's about time to upgrade.

    Since these toy haulers have been around a while now, I suspect there is some good data on which ones are decent quality, durable, reasonable cost, low maintenance, etc. I just can't seem to find a good comparison review so I'm looking for enduser advice.

    Smaller is better for me 19-21ft. I've only seen a few at local dealers, not sure what to look for. I've never owned a camp trailer before.

    Any advice would be welcomed. :) From towing to trailer, etc.

    Oh, and I have a little 2005 F150 4.6L 4WD that I'm intending to tow it with. Ya, I know it's a little anemic but I'm only a couple driving hours from everywhere.
    06 CRF450X (Most fun I've had in years!)
    00 YZ426F (Scary Fast, occasionaly rips my arms out and my right leg is tired before I even ride.)
    01 YZ125 (Son's leg breaker, twice!)
    06 CRF150F (Daughter's, Only bike my wife will ride!)
  • Mr Smith

    by Mr Smith » Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:02 am

    You are going to want to look for something in the Superlight series from any of the companies. They are all pretty good now a days. The Weekend Warriors are pretty good. I have an fk1900 and love it. Of course you arent going to be happy hauling any of them with anything less than a 3/4 ton truck.
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    by GhostX » Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:13 pm

    Check this link out, it will be very helpful (if not a little overwhelming!). :D

    http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fusea ... 516802.cfm

    Also, look at a great product called and Outback Kargoroo, which the 24KRS would be a good unit (7000 lbs GVWR) for you to tow with your truck.

    Don't just consider the engine on your truck, but brakes and tranny too.[/url]
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    by redrider911 » Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:41 pm

    I would prefer one that has a partition wall to separate the bike area from the living area (who wants to smell gas all the time) Also the check the bathrooms. Some of the smaller ones you have to straddle the toilet while taking a shower. Built in stabilizer jacks are nice. Load levelers/ anti sway on the hitch is important. Everything else would be into choosing the right floor plan that suits you. You can also buy a used one cheaper. I don't know about elsewhere, but they don't hold their value out this way. I would also not get the factory generator. You can by a nicer/quieter one. Only downfall, you will have to chain it to the outside so no one will steel it.
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    by GhostX » Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:04 pm

    Check out these floorplans for the Outbacker 23KRS (sorry, I added a foot in the above post) and the 28KRS. These might have what you are looking for, separate storage for the bikes from the living quarters, and I really like the side loading feature. We looked at these, and the pricing for the 23KRS new was between $18K and $21K OTD depending on where you shop.

    http://www.outbackers.com/forums/index. ... i&img=1559
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    by dirk902 » Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:22 am

    You defiantly want to look at the towing capacity of your truck first, then you know the weight of the toy hauler you can pull. Don't forget to add the weight that your water tank (Normally 100 gallons, about 800lbs +-) adds as well as how much weight bikes gear etc. will add. I am a Fleet Mgr for a Dodge-Chrysler-Jeep dealer and the number one reason people come in to buy a larger truck to tow their trailer is because their RV salesman told them that their 1/2 ton truck would be just fine for towing the trailer. Know the capabilities of your truck!!! and the true Dry weight of the trailer (plus adds). It is on a label (Tag) on the toy hauler :D

    I have a 26' Toy hauler and was also concerned about the smell of gas. Mine has no sub-wall, I carry the gas cans in the back of my truck, but I have never smelt gas one time, even when the neighbor kid left his gas on all the way to Ocotillo Wells :roll: If you have a full crew like I do (Usually 4 bikes, a neighbor kid or two and a quad... the sub-wall will not work.
    Clean well taken care of used will save you a lot of money. If new is the only way you want to go, go to one of your local RV shows, you can usually find some pretty big discounts
    :D Toy Haulers are a awesome way to go riding/camping...Enjoy!

    Dirk
  • Mr Smith

    by Mr Smith » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:41 am

    I dont have a sub wall in mine either. Ive had it for a year and go on 300 + mile trips with three bikes and a quad in it and it still smells new.
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    by JAWS » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:55 am

    Smitty, believe me, after riding all day, there isn't anything in your toyhauler that smells new! :)
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  • Mr Smith

    by Mr Smith » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:26 pm

    Ya got a point there.... :shock:
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    by Motomom » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:08 am

    WOW! That was a great site. I think I found a fifth wheel that fits our bill too. The Heartland Razor 31ft. It has the separate garage that we want also. I agree with the smell, plus it's a better way to secure your bike. We had someone mess with one of our bikes at the races one time. Mucked my sons racing for the day. Now that were down to only one kid (soon none!) this will be perfect for us. Thank you ROBAK for asking the question and thank you trd4jt for suppling a link.
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    by ROBAK » Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:04 pm

    Thanks for the links and info folks. I'm still poking around for info.

    I have to submit info to the Boss (wife) and somehow get her buy-in..

    I am really looking for a small unit, don't really care about a partitioned area. My wife always said she thought I was sleepin' with the bikes anyway.

    Appearantly I stink! Oh well..
    06 CRF450X (Most fun I've had in years!)
    00 YZ426F (Scary Fast, occasionaly rips my arms out and my right leg is tired before I even ride.)
    01 YZ125 (Son's leg breaker, twice!)
    06 CRF150F (Daughter's, Only bike my wife will ride!)
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    by boxbuilder » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:38 am

    Can u post what u decide i am in the market for one also.
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    Re: Toy hauler advice

    by Dirtclod » Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:29 am

    ROBAK wrote:I'm looking for advice on toy haulers.

    I've been using a flatbed with my pickup for the last 20 years and I think it's about time to upgrade.

    Since these toy haulers have been around a while now, I suspect there is some good data on which ones are decent quality, durable, reasonable cost, low maintenance, etc. I just can't seem to find a good comparison review so I'm looking for enduser advice.

    Smaller is better for me 19-21ft. I've only seen a few at local dealers, not sure what to look for. I've never owned a camp trailer before.

    Any advice would be welcomed. :) From towing to trailer, etc.

    Oh, and I have a little 2005 F150 4.6L 4WD that I'm intending to tow it with. Ya, I know it's a little anemic but I'm only a couple driving hours from everywhere.



    2007 19 Ft Attitude Toyhauler has everything you need I just bought one at Mc Mahons RV in Station 714 896-8268 $17.999=about $21.137 OTD

    I tow it with a 1/2 Dodge with a 5.7 up the Cajon pass loaded at 70 MPH The truck is rated GVWR at the Hitch 7800


    PS I own a Ford to with the 4.6 it's not a 4WD But I tell you this I pulled my buddies 20 foot enclosed trailer with three bikes and gear & Gas only in it worked that Moter hard.Up the Cajon Pass.
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    by GhostX » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:35 pm

    I just got back from the desert, and I camped next to a family with three kids, hauling five quads in an Attitude (by Eclipse) toy hauler. I talked with the owner and he gave me a tour of his rig. You can look it up on line, his was a 2004 that he bought used from a private party for $15,000.

    It was really nice, about 24' long (stated 21'), and he reported that he had had no problems with the unit.

    It was funny, but Pete, the owner, referred to all toy haulers as "single wides on wheels." :lol: :lol: :lol: He has several friends who own Weekend Warrior models, and he says that they have had all kinds of warranty/out of warranty issues. I think they are the most popular manufacturer, so therefore the odds are you will hear about some of their problems more than others.


    Good luck, did you settle on a unit yet??
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    by 1stHonda » Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:15 pm

    I have a FS3400 Weekend Warrior and for two years it has been pretty good, Not saying it is the best, but for every brand out there I have had a buddy or someone they know complain about it. I know it is longer than you're wanting but as quality goes, I just took it in for service this week, still under it's two year bumper to bumper warranty. Fuel station fuse, and a water heater temp sensor control, not bad, It needs regular maintenance like anything else, also changed the batts because they were week. As for getting the gen, I say it is a definite must, you are already the guy loading and unloading and fixing tires and lighting fires and everything else camping requires you don't want to add dragging a heavy gen around, filling it with fuel, securing it, going out to start it, making sure it is not in a spot where it will annoy the neighbors. I watched a dad do that at Perris MX this weekend, anything to get you more riding and relaxing seems worth it to me. The gen on the Warrior is really quiet. As for the partition, my opinion is you will not like it, it makes a small trailer feel even smaller, claustrophobic really. Who rides and doesn't like the smell of gas? Since this is a pull behind trailer, I went with and recommend the Reese Dual Cam Sway control, keeps the trailer running straight in some pretty good wind and won't bend your bars on the tight turns. As for pulling in general, my buddies and I all started out thinking gas was ok but soon realized 3/4 ton diesels are the only way to go. When I do it again I am definitely going with a fifth wheel, more trailer to fit in the same size rv parking space and a better pull. As for purchasing, I went through the internet fleet manager for mine and his price was ridiculously low compared to the vultures at the lot. Good luck.
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