At the risk of being politcal.....
  • Old Dude
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    At the risk of being politcal.....

    by Old Dude » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:44 am

    Or maybe I should say politically incorrect. I got this email regarding this (reportedly a real) speech from our Australian friends. If its old news: Sorry but wanted too know what the general consensus was and if any of our members from down under could verify its authenticity.
    Ready on the Right ... Ready on the Left... The Line is ready....
    Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to
    get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head
    off potential terror attacks.
    A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to
    Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John
    Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a
    crackdown.
    Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some
    radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept
    that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament.
    "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law
    or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you", he said on national
    television.
    "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws
    governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another the
    Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law,
    independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the
    opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then,
    that's a better option", Costello said.
    Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said
    those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other
    country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that
    Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off.
    Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want to
    live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can
    basically clear off", he said.
    Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying
    he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques Quote:
    "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired
    of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or
    their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a
    surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians." "However, the dust
    from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politically correct' crowd
    began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending
    others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone
    who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia." "However, there are a
    few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently
    some born here, need to understand."
    "This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has served only to
    dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Australians, we have
    our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle."
    "This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials
    and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"
    "We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese,
    Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of
    our society, Learn the language!"
    "Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing,
    political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian
    principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is
    certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God
    offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your
    new home, because God is part of our culture."
    "We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that
    you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us."
    "If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like 'A Fair Go', then you
    should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are
    happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't
    care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your
    culture, but do not force it on others."
    "This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you
    every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining,
    whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or
    Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great
    Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."
    "If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You
    asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."
    Commence Firing!
    O.D.
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    by Asmith » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:51 am

    Racist!!!!! :shock:

    Just kidding...

    I posted something similar in July.

    http://www.crfsonly.com/forum/viewtopic ... sharia+law

    I think we can all learn from our Aussie friends,

    just not when it comes to Gun laws. I think they went soft when it came to this.
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    by Old Dude » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:09 am

    I thought it sounded familiar. Went back and read your post and responses. It would be interesting to see the response from the CITIZENS of this country if a canidate in the upcoming Presidential election were to take a stand as couragous as this. I suspect the media would lambaist the poor guy (yes GUY!) but how would the voting Ameriacn CITIZEN respond to this bold statement of patriotism . Would it serve as a wake up call to action to stand up and take back this great Nation or motivation to move to Australia?
    O.D.[/b]
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    by JAWS » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:21 am

    I agree. IF you move to another country, then blend..

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    agreement

    by woodsman » Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:39 pm

    i totally hope that the next prez has that as part of his set of ideals because a lot of what was sayd there aplies here (especially gun laws which i think shouldnt exist).Do you know that california governor arnold swarchenegger (or however that idiots name is spelled) has put a ban in his state on all .50 calibre rifles!!! just because they fire a bigger,more powerful round.if thats the way we all go soon the terrorists will be the only 1s left with guns.just because they are outlawed and the average american cant get them does not mean that terrorists or bad guys couldnt get them(look at drugs ,they are illegal but they are still a huge problem)



    I would certainly vote for a prez who could stand up to the media and popular(but wrong) thinking(guns laws shutting down riding areas and liberalism as a whole)!!!
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    by Hale701 » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:06 am

    Rock on man!!!!!! I like the way the Aussie thinks. We need him over here to coach our Prez! :lol:
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    by Old Dude » Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:30 am

    Woodsman,
    Don't you mean Liberalism as a holes? ;)
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    by [email protected] » Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:16 am

    I love it,and am proud of the Australians and Howard.
    Screw the politically correct crowd. There's lots of room available for those that don't like it to immigrate to,say,Iraq or Saudi Arabia.
    This is not some Christian, right wing,
    political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian
    principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented

    Same with the USA,and my opinon is that is why we have been blessed with riches and have a great place to live,as have the Australians. Versus the lush,paradise on earth locales like Saudi Arabia,Iran,Iraq,etc.
    If I had to live somewhere else,it would be Australia.
    Doug
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    by Vanrock » Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:30 am

    hey yeah that is quiet old sorry to dissapoint you. That was on our tv's for a week :) but it seems to be quiet regualar latly
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    by Ratman448 » Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:46 pm

    Vanrock wrote:hey yeah that is quiet old sorry to dissapoint you. That was on our tv's for a week :) but it seems to be quiet regualar latly


    Old or not, I support that 110%. When you move to a different country, you play by their rules, not your own. You don't like it, LEAVE, and don't let the doorknob hit you in the butt on the way out!
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    by [email protected] » Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:56 pm

    When you move to a different country, you play by their rules, not your own.

    Now that's a CANADIAN, not likesome of the the flakes in Quebec ! Doug

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