Puttin' the header pipe on ice...
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    Puttin' the header pipe on ice...

    by nedirtbikr » Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:20 pm

    Can someone help me? I saw a thread somewhere here (obviously, I can't find it) about a procedure where you fill your header pipe with water and freeze it to get it back in shape. Can someone help me find that thread? Or, if you've done it successfully, can you clue me in on the exact method to pulling this little procedure off?

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    by uniped » Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:36 pm

    I have a problem with this theory but could be wrong. Looks good on paper but I do not think you can control where the expansion of the water will stop with out using a little math. you would need the desired volume as well as the current volume and relate that to the expansion rate of water at its freezing point from there it is easy use plugs from a plumbig supply and throw it in the freezer. I may be wrong though.

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    by KevinM » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:18 pm

    Yes, those darned old strong forces of nuclear physics can be troublesome when applied to header pipes. Better go with air pressures. Much more controllable.
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    by nedirtbikr » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:54 pm

    Well, $hit! With all that, I may as well just get a new one. Now you guys have me puckering a bit about splittin' the darn thing. Hmmm...I guess I'll reread the thread and go from there. Thanks for the thread.
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    by UteMachine » Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:49 am

    I've thought the same thing as everyone else, "wouldn't it just take the path of least resistance and expand out the ends?"

    However, not having personally tried it, I have heard of several people doing it succesfully. Give it a try Ned, you have nothing to lose.
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    by nedirtbikr » Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:46 am

    I think I may try the freezer method after getting a new pipe. If nothing else, I'll have a backup between the new and old repaired (if it works) pipe. We'll see...
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    by Danny » Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:09 pm

    nedirtbikr wrote:Well, $hit! With all that, I may as well just get a new one. Now you guys have me puckering a bit about splittin' the darn thing. Hmmm...I guess I'll reread the thread and go from there.


    Mine is pretty much toast I would like to try to fix it for a spare.So if I ruin it no huge loss, But seems to me you are gonna need some mighty strong plugs in the ends of that pipe.

    I have seen the ones plumbers use to test with, Blow and flood us out,at work more than once.

    Keep me posted on your progress Mark.

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    by 124 » Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:11 am

    There's always the repair route. I believe that Pacific Crest is also fixing Ti pipes as well. Not sure how he does it, but I'm sure its quality. He's fixed a number of my pipes and I've been very pleased with his work...

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    by nedirtbikr » Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:29 am

    124 wrote:There's always the repair route. I believe that Pacific Crest is also fixing Ti pipes as well. Not sure how he does it, but I'm sure its quality. He's fixed a number of my pipes and I've been very pleased with his work... www.piperepair.com
    Thanks! I emailed them this morning. They show a $50+shipping cost for pipe repair. If that also applies to the 450 Ti pipe, that's not bad. I figure it'll probably cost me at least $10 - $20 for those plugs Danny mentioned. We'll see what they say and go from there.

    Danny - where'd you get your Ti header for $185? Thanks!
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    by nedirtbikr » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:11 am

    nedirtbikr wrote:
    124 wrote:There's always the repair route. I believe that Pacific Crest is also fixing Ti pipes as well. Not sure how he does it, but I'm sure its quality. He's fixed a number of my pipes and I've been very pleased with his work... www.piperepair.com
    Thanks! I emailed them this morning.
    Well, as usual...no return email or anything. What is it with businesses that offer "contact us" choices on their website and then never seem to use it. I guess it just the "common courtesy" side of me griping. If you offer something to your customers...whether it's a product or a service (and I consider the "contact us" link on a website a "service",) you should live up to it. VERY frustrating! It shouldn't "require" a phone call. Just my bitchin' I guess.

    Tried the "freezer" method and it didn't do a thing. Anyone have a recommendation of where to buy decently priced header pipes? I think I'm just going to go ahead with the stainless pipe.

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    by 124 » Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:26 am

    That sucks Mark. Did you try calling them? Bret (I think is his name) was always pretty responsive when I dealt with him in the past. Oh well, if you do decide anything, the guy does good work.
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    by Danny » Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:36 pm

    nedirtbikr wrote:
    nedirtbikr wrote:
    124 wrote:There's always the repair route. I believe that Pacific Crest is also fixing Ti pipes as well. Not sure how he does it, but I'm sure its quality. He's fixed a number of my pipes and I've been very pleased with his work... www.piperepair.com
    Thanks! I emailed them this morning.
    Well, as usual...no return email or anything. What is it with businesses that offer "contact us" choices on their website and then never seem to use it. I guess it just the "common courtesy" side of me griping. If you offer something to your customers...whether it's a product or a service (and I consider the "contact us" link on a website a "service",) you should live up to it. VERY frustrating! It shouldn't "require" a phone call. Just my bitchin' I guess.

    Tried the "freezer" method and it didn't do a thing. Anyone have a recommendation of where to buy decently priced header pipes? I think I'm just going to go ahead with the stainless pipe.

    Thanks all!


    Mark,
    I e-mailed them as well,
    I even attached a photo and wrote can you fix this?
    No reply at all,Just went out and bought a new one.

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    by nedirtbikr » Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:28 am

    124 wrote:That sucks Mark. Did you try calling them? Bret (I think is his name) was always pretty responsive when I dealt with him in the past. Oh well, if you do decide anything, the guy does good work.
    No, I didn't try calling. I suppose I could...it just frustrates me when companies "appear" unresponsive. I trust your recommendation for using them...I just get a little pissy about these kinds of things.
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    by IKE607 » Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:14 am

    On another message board I belong to, this topic has come up recently. Several members have used this method with great success. The common thread seems to be that you need to first put in only enough water to pass the area with the dent. Then, place it in the freezer so the water is where the dented portion is, and freeze. They do not recommend filling it completely and plugging the ends as it may split the pipe. Another common thread to all the success stories seems to be more than one application. Some guys have taken it out, thawed it a little, put it back in overnight. Some had to do this more than once, but all say after at least a couple applications, the dent was completely gone. Some got lucky and it came out the first try. I think it depends on the shape and severity of the dent. If you don't plug the ends, you won't have to worry about splitting the pipe...
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