User manual misinformation
  • mossman77
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    User manual misinformation

    by mossman77 » Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:54 am

    I believe my 250X owner's manual may contain some misinformation regarding the rear suspension adjustments. On page 123, it says that if the bike has less than 10 mm of free sag (loaded, no rider), the spring is too stiff. This contradicts everything else I have read from multiple sources. My understanding is if you do not have enough free sag, it's because you had to add too much preload to get the proper race sag (loaded with rider) which means the spring is too soft. And if you have too much free sag, you didn't add enough preload which means the spring is too stiff. My nephew's CRF150RB manual has the exact same paragraph.
  • Deanzo
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    by Deanzo » Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:07 pm

    I don't have my hard copy infront of me, but I do have an e copy of the 2005 250X

    Is this the paragraph ? (note this one says more than 25mm is too stiff)

    "6. Calculate the free sag dimension.
    To do this, subtract the loaded without rider
    dimension (step 5) from the unloaded
    dimension (step 2).
    Free sag indicates the distance your rear
    suspension should sag from the weight of the
    sprung portion of your motorcycle.
    With the spring pre-load set to obtain the
    proper race sag, the rear suspension should
    sag 10 to 25 mm (0.4 to 1.0 in).
    If the rear of your motorcycle sags more than
    25 mm (1.0 in) from its own weight, the
    spring is too stiff for your weight. It is not
    compressed enough, even though you have
    the proper race sag adjustment. As a result,
    the rear suspension will not extend as far as it
    should."
  • mossman77
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    by mossman77 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:43 am

    That is the paragraph I am referring to. However, in the 2007 manual, it says "if less than 10mm..." They had it right initially then made it wrong. Apparently whoever edited the manual doesn't understand sag (or I don't).

    6. Calculate the free sag dimension.
    To do this, subtract the loaded without rider
    dimension (step 5) from the unloaded
    dimension (step 2).
    Free sag indicates the distance your rear
    suspension should sag from the weight of the
    sprung portion of your CRF.
    With the spring pre-load set to obtain the
    proper race sag, the rear suspension should
    sag 0.4 to 1.0 in (10 to 25 mm).
    If the rear of your CRF sags less than 0.4 in
    (10 mm) from its own weight
    , the spring is
    too stiff for your weight. It is not compressed
    enough, even though you have the proper race
    sag adjustment. As a result, the rear
    suspension will not extend as far as it should.

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