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No clue? (clicker settings)

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:08 pm
by kerrycorcoran
I ride motocross.

What is the logic to setting the clickers?

I assume the top clicker changes the Dampening and the bottom clicker handles the rebound? Is that correct?

Anyone know of a simple "general rule" to follow to set this up?

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:03 pm
by marks crf
yes
here's some help
http://www.adbmag.com/ContentItem.aspx?ContentID=4021


to go to next page its not on the bottom but up the top just above the photo

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:56 pm
Hey Kerry,
Your owners manual has an outstanding section on suspension set-up, check it out. Actually it is very,very good.
It is set-up to make sense , to logically assist you with the set-up.
Did you install your Rekluse yet ?
The first time you're riding well and stall the bike you'll think about what you've got at home sitting in the garage that would've spared you the hassle. :lol: Doug

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:47 am
by kerrycorcoran
Doug,

Funny you replied to this thread, I almost called you direct to get some information from you - I knew you'd know where to look. :)

No, sadly, I haven't installed the Rekluse. I will...you'll see. I am looking forward to locking up the back brake andpower sliding into a turn as you mentioned!!!

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:05 am
Call anytime.
I just had a bizzare moment this past weekend.
The guy who bought my 07 R is a local city cop,a great guy named Dennis.
It turns out he knows Justin Williamson, the GNCC Pro, evidently Justins girlfriend goes to the University here in town.
Justin rode my former 450R , which had heavier springs front and rear, RaceTech Ultra Slick 0-5 wt. oil and some careful tinkering. He came back from riding the R and said "Did he(me) have this suspension re-valved , because it's just perfect." I guess my weight was balanced out by his incredible speed and the stars aligned. How about that?
He also loved the Rekluse Dennis installed. :lol: Doug

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:20 pm
by CRF916
Heres a little information I found about suspensions. It might help to better understand what your bike is saying to you without saying it.

Suspension Setup Tips

TROUBLE SHOOTING

Various tracks or trail systems may require slightly different settings. Changes made in settings

should be done 1-2 clicks (LS Comp. / Rebound) or 1/4 - 1/2 turn at a time (HS Comp.).

COMPRESSION:

Compression damping controls how soft / hard the fork or shock is when compressed. Some

machines have only a Low Speed Compression adjuster on the shock. The Low Speed

Compression damping is adjusted by clicks. Other shocks today also have a High Speed

Compression adjuster in which the damping is adjusted by turns. Low Speed&High Speed

Compression are terms that relate to how fast the fork or shock is being compressed. High Shaft

Speed creates more damping and is not necessarily relative to motorcycle speed. High Shaft

Speeds can be created at low motorcycle speed. Examples of High Shaft Speed obstacles:

square edged bumps, slap down landings, lipped out jump faces, logs. Examples of Low Shaft

Speed obstacles: rolling bumps / whoops, steep jump faces.

REBOUND

Rebound damping controls how quickly the fork or shock comes back up after being compressed.

The Rebound damping is usually adjusted by clicks.

BOTTOMING:

Is caused by lack of compression damping or too soft of a spring rate. Correct by adjusting the

compression damping stiffer until bottoming is under control. If you run out of adjustment and

bottoming still exists consistently, a stiffer spring rate may be necessary. If spring rate is correct,

too much compression damping is added and harshness is felt in forks then oil level can be

raised to increase bottoming resistance. (Generally 10cc / 10mm (consult your shop manual for

oil level ranges).

SHOCK - Is caused by lack of compression damping or too soft of a spring rate. Correct by

adjusting the compression damping stiffer until bottoming is under control. Note: If the

components have a lot of time on them, bottoming or a soft, springy feeling can be an indication

that a service or rebuild is necessary.

HEADSHAKE / HARSHNESS:

FORK - Is generally caused by too much compression damping in the forks. Soften compression

1-2 clicks. Lighter riders for the size bike you are riding may find it necessary to change to softer

fork springs. Too much rebound damping can also cause a "packing" situation in which the

damping holds the forks down in a stiffer area of the travel than is needed. Soften rebound

damping 1-2 clicks. Other causes can be:

a) Improper fork installation or binding of the fork.

b) Improper shock set up which causes the fork to ride too far into the stroke.

Too much air pressure in your front tire will cause some deflection and harshness feel to

your forks. We recommend only 11-13 psi of pressure.

BACK END KICKS SIDE TO SIDE:

SHOCK - Generally caused by too much compression damping on most types of terrain. Too

much compression damping on square edge terrain can cause the back end to kick side to side

and/or lose traction. Also, too much rebound damping will cause this because the back end is

held down in a stiffer area of the travel which in turn makes it too stiff for the bumps it's hitting

(packing).

BACK END KICKS STRAIGHT UP:

SHOCK - Generally caused by too little or not enough rebound damping. Slow rebound damping

1-2 clicks. Note: In some applications rebound affects compression damping. Adding too much

rebound stiffens the shock damping, decreasing rebound too much softens the shock damping.

VARIOUS TRACKS:

HARD TERRAIN / BLUE GROOVE TERRAIN

Generally adjust compression as soft as possible to handle square edges while still having some

control with bottoming.

INTERMEDIATE / LOAMY TERRAIN

Generally adjust a little stiffer for the softer terrain, jump faces and bottoming. Optimum settings

still should be on the softer side for square edges and rutted corners.

SOFT / SANDY TERRAIN

Generally, stiffen compression and rebound. You want the bike to ride on top of the terrain,

allowing the forks to ride up a little higher.

ROCKY / ROOTY TERRAIN

Generally you need compression very soft to absorb the sharp hits. Rebound is generally

softened to provide a very responsive feel and ride.