[CCF]

come awn debate it will make things more interesting

Alright Amsoil might suck, but I'll let you know after I have some experience..

[pgiinc]

should rider weight be mention when top speeeds are given
I think a 120 pound rider will be much differant then a man at 220
so it like let me see the 220 ride will be like two people on the bike will make a 10mph differance for sure don't you think

[Old-Man]

So what is the reason for changing out both sprocket? Couldn't you get the samething out of just changing out the front or rear?

[CCF]

So what is the reason for changing out both sprocket? Couldn't you get the samething out of just changing out the front or rear?

The counter sprocket is the big change - each tooth equaling approx. 3 1/2 teeth change if it were to done with the rear sprocket. Fine tuning is then done with adding or removing teeth from the rear sprocket in my opinion (+/- tooth or teeth).

[Old-Man]

So then if stock is 13/51, and you're running 14/48, if I ran a 15 in front I would get just about what you have with the 14/48 out of a 15/51. Is that a bad idea, or would I be better off with the 14/48?

With the 14/48 how does the bike do in tech stuff. Does it bog down the bike much on those big hills? Would I be better off putting the stock gears back on for that riding.

It just seems like when I'm out in the open I'm topping it out all the time at high rev's.

[CCF]

So then if stock is 13/51, and you're running 14/48, if I ran a 15 in front I would get just about what you have with the 14/48 out of a 15/51. Is that a bad idea, or would I be better off with the 14/48?

With the 14/48 how does the bike do in tech stuff. Does it bog down the bike much on those big hills? Would I be better off putting the stock gears back on for that riding.

It just seems like when I'm out in the open I'm topping it out all the time at high rev's.

You are correct, a going up to a 15 tooth counter sprocket would be very equal to 14/48 gearing. While I'm on this topic the reason I went with the 14/48 combo is because many of aftermarket Case Saver guards (Fastway is what I use) will not fit a 15 tooth counter sprocket, only 14 tooth max.

14/48 is okay in the tech stuff as long as you are good with the clutch control or use a Rekluse. Depending on the size and angle of the hills you are attempting it may possibly be a problem, but I think that would be very rare. For the real tight trails or even motocross tracks I would run the stock gearing or even higher, like 13/53 or 12/51 potentially.

I'm seeing approx. 12 -15 mile and hour gain in top speed by running a 14/48 versus the stock 13/51. So yes it will you a lot of room to grow RPM wise.

[Old-Man]

So then if stock is 13/51, and you're running 14/48, if I ran a 15 in front I would get just about what you have with the 14/48 out of a 15/51. Is that a bad idea, or would I be better off with the 14/48?

With the 14/48 how does the bike do in tech stuff. Does it bog down the bike much on those big hills? Would I be better off putting the stock gears back on for that riding.

It just seems like when I'm out in the open I'm topping it out all the time at high rev's.

You are correct, a going up to a 15 tooth counter sprocket would be very equal to 14/48 gearing. While I'm on this topic the reason I went with the 14/48 combo is because many of aftermarket Case Saver guards (Fastway is what I use) will not fit a 15 tooth counter sprocket, only 14 tooth max.

14/48 is okay in the tech stuff as long as you are good with the clutch control or use a Rekluse. Depending on the size and angle of the hills you are attempting it may possibly be a problem, but I think that would be very rare. For the real tight trails or even motocross tracks I would run the stock gearing or even higher, like 13/53 or 12/51 potentially.

I'm seeing approx. 12 -15 mile and hour gain in top speed by running a 14/48 versus the stock 13/51. So yes it will you a lot of room to grow RPM wise.

So the 15 will go on without a issue on with the stock guard right?

I see Ken sells many front gears. What makes one better then the next for the extra money?

[CCF]

So then if stock is 13/51, and you're running 14/48, if I ran a 15 in front I would get just about what you have with the 14/48 out of a 15/51. Is that a bad idea, or would I be better off with the 14/48?

With the 14/48 how does the bike do in tech stuff. Does it bog down the bike much on those big hills? Would I be better off putting the stock gears back on for that riding.

It just seems like when I'm out in the open I'm topping it out all the time at high rev's.

You are correct, a going up to a 15 tooth counter sprocket would be very equal to 14/48 gearing. While I'm on this topic the reason I went with the 14/48 combo is because many of aftermarket Case Saver guards (Fastway is what I use) will not fit a 15 tooth counter sprocket, only 14 tooth max.

14/48 is okay in the tech stuff as long as you are good with the clutch control or use a Rekluse. Depending on the size and angle of the hills you are attempting it may possibly be a problem, but I think that would be very rare. For the real tight trails or even motocross tracks I would run the stock gearing or even higher, like 13/53 or 12/51 potentially.

I'm seeing approx. 12 -15 mile and hour gain in top speed by running a 14/48 versus the stock 13/51. So yes it will you a lot of room to grow RPM wise.

So the 15 will go on without a issue on with the stock guard right?

I see Ken sells many front gears. What makes one better then the next for the extra money?

I have not tried it, but I would think "Yes" a 15 tooth would fit fine with the stock guard. I also doubt Ken would offer them for each particular model bike if it would not fit.

I personally haven't noticed any difference in the higher prices ones versus the cheaper ones. A more expensive one may potentially last longer is about all I could see because it may have been made from a stronger metal or have been heat treated.

[tkrrox]

hey old man pick up the TM designworks case saver...they claim you can fit a 15 on there and still have protection...

i rode a 14/48 at rohwer with no problems at all...i did have to play with the clutch a little on some of the technical, but that's how i always ride (a gear high and use momentum more than torque to get through)

i think once my rear chain is worn i'm going back to the 51 and change the front between a 14 and a 15...this should give me a roughly a 13/48(49) for tighter trails and a 14/48 for cal city and baja...

btw...that is what i switch from now