[JimDirt]

2007 on has the smog stuff , 05-06 does not (they were made before California could screw things up)

Also the valve adjustment would be the same regardless of X or R

[Yak A Tech]

Good to hear! lol I thought 06 was the first models since that was around the time of the emissions stuff (what year was the bill passed?). I guess I can't ride my bike in cali then right?

Installed new grips. The stock ones didn't feel good, I couldn't imagine riding it with out gloves. Still don't plan too but these new ones look and feel better.

Oil looked good, trans and engine. Trans had a little aluminum in it but was a fine dust, nothing I haven't seen from other good running dirt bikes.

The main jet is a 142, so that means it is stock jetting. I'm about to order the JD kit and think this will not only help the stalling but the starting of the bike too! I had went by the dealership and they didn't even have any jets for me to pick up . And the guy kept telling me that stock main was a 165 when I was asking for a 165 lol. Fuel injection sounds good, but I understand carbs a little better, even if I can't fine tune one .

Full quart in the trans right? Right after I put the engine oil in, I checked the level (haven't ran it) and it was a over the High tic mark. Is that okay? Or does it NEED to be between tick marks? Digging and looking more into the engine, it looks very untouched. No shiny marks on screw heads, no rounded or stripped bolts, nothing. It appears I have gotten it more dirty last weekend than it has seen in its life.

To do list:

JD Kit

Install Flex fuel screw (how in the world would you adjust any other one on the trail!?!?)

Remove snorkel

Drill 6 holes in top of airbox

Install these little air filters, I bought a while back for a KDX in which has been opened up, in to said holes.

Dream about other mods in which I won't spend the money on, I don't need, and will never ride good enough to tell the difference.

I do want some bigger foot pegs. I have some on the KDX and they are nice. I may just swap them if they fit..

[MattBennett23]

I put a set of IMS bigfoot pegs on my 250X. Love em.

http://www.crfsonly.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/4064

There is a pic of them installed on my bike in the garage area too if you want to see them.

[JimDirt]

Good to hear! lol I thought 06 was the first models since that was around the time of the emissions stuff (what year was the bill passed?). I guess I can't ride my bike in cali then right?

Installed new grips. The stock ones didn't feel good, I couldn't imagine riding it with out gloves. Still don't plan too but these new ones look and feel better.

Oil looked good, trans and engine. Trans had a little aluminum in it but was a fine dust, nothing I haven't seen from other good running dirt bikes.

The main jet is a 142, so that means it is stock jetting. I'm about to order the JD kit and think this will not only help the stalling but the starting of the bike too! I had went by the dealership and they didn't even have any jets for me to pick up . And the guy kept telling me that stock main was a 165 when I was asking for a 165 lol. Fuel injection sounds good, but I understand carbs a little better, even if I can't fine tune one .

Full quart in the trans right? Right after I put the engine oil in, I checked the level (haven't ran it) and it was a over the High tic mark. Is that okay? Or does it NEED to be between tick marks? Digging and looking more into the engine, it looks very untouched. No shiny marks on screw heads, no rounded or stripped bolts, nothing. It appears I have gotten it more dirty last weekend than it has seen in its life.

To do list:

JD Kit

Install Flex fuel screw (how in the world would you adjust any other one on the trail!?!?)

Remove snorkel

Drill 6 holes in top of airbox

Install these little air filters, I bought a while back for a KDX in which has been opened up, in to said holes.

Dream about other mods in which I won't spend the money on, I don't need, and will never ride good enough to tell the difference.

I do want some bigger foot pegs. I have some on the KDX and they are nice. I may just swap them if they fit..

Grips: , i like ODI , as they bolt on instead of glue on , so its easy to change them when needed , and they are both the same size , where "normal" grips the throttle is larger than the clutch side grip , so its more of a relaxed fit with your hands , since one is not smaller than the other , you have even pressure , which to me , helps with fatigue

Oil: , it is normal to see shavings in the Clutch side , its the clutch material flaking off , which is why Honda and KTM are better engine designs , because they separate the Engine oil from the Transmission oil , so all those shavings are not contaminating your crank and piston and cam

Jetting: , unfortunately , in the world we live in , the industry is controlled by the EPA , so all bikes you buy will be notoriously lean from the factory , i bought mine in Oregon , and it had a 42/142 as well , its pretty much standard , i run a 45/162 with a #65 Leak Jet (the jet in the bottom of the bowl that connects to the AP Pump) , i ride between 2000 ft to 8000 ft , mostly in the 3000 to 5000 range on average , i would also recommend a R&D Flex Jet (fuel screw) , it makes fine tuning out on the trail so much easier , just reach down and turn it ...simple..

Trans Oil: Yes a full qt. it won't hurt anything

Engine Oil: If when you checked the engine oil (filling with recommended volume) , you noticed it slightly high , then once you start it and the oil circulates a little it will settle and fill all the gaps and should be right around the high mark

Footpegs: I have Fastway (ProMotoBillet) pegs on mine , i like the ability to "adjust" the traction , by raising or lowering the screws to give more or less grip , they are wide and give you a stable foot placement when riding off road when your constantly hitting crap with your feet

Recommendation: I would also highly recommend a HotCams Stage 1 (what i have) , for making the bike even more trail friendly , it will make the bike more manageable and also come alive in the lower to mid RPM range where you mostly use it while trail riding , they are a couple hundred dollars , but its a very noticeable improvement

Along with the "Pink Wire Mod" , you will have more control and even less stalling , i dont need a flywheel weight with the HotCams in it , the bike will lug like it never did before , and its really hard to stall it , it will just tractor thru stuff , where in the same area before the cam swap , it struggled , i also recommend gearing the bike 13/52 (stock is 13/51) , it will help in the slow stuff and you will still have plenty of top speed (70+mph)

Along with the other items you and others mentioned , you will love the bike even more , and wont want to get off it when the days riding is supposed to be done , you will want to keep going , and along with setting the suspension for your weight and messing with the clickers (if you dont want to spend the $$ on Re-Valving) , you will be VERY happy how much different the bike will be , not one negative i can think of with just those few items done , i have had mine since June of 05 (it was the first 06's in my area , i paid $6300 out the door) , and i still love riding it , and everyone else that rides it loves it compared to a stock one , its VERY reliable and is a dream to ride , it has NEVER broken down on a ride in the 10 years i have had it

[RLPII]

2007 on has the smog stuff , 05-06 does not (they were made before California could screw things up)

Also the valve adjustment would be the same regardless of X or R

Jim, my 2005 450X was originally sold in CA and it came with all the smog crap installed - of course, it has since been removed.
Just an FYI......

[JimDirt]

Jim, my 2005 450X was originally sold in CA and it came with all the smog crap installed - of course, it has since been removed.
Just an FYI......

Really ?? , wow , i thought Ca. didnt get to them till 07 , i am pretty sure the rest of the states did not have it till 07 (not sure about Wa. state since it seems to follow Ca. guidelines , but in Idaho and Oregon , i know for a fact did not have it till 07 , so 05-06 was the bike to have , also had the 2.3 tank stock instead of the useless 1.9 (which is stupid for off road) they introduced in 07 along with the smog crap around here

[RLPII]

Jim, my 2005 450X was originally sold in CA and it came with all the smog crap installed - of course, it has since been removed.
Just an FYI......

Really ?? , wow , i thought Ca. didnt get to them till 07 , i am pretty sure the rest of the states did not have it till 07 (not sure about Wa. state since it seems to follow Ca. guidelines , but in Idaho and Oregon , i know for a fact did not have it till 07 , so 05-06 was the bike to have , also had the 2.3 tank stock instead of the useless 1.9 (which is stupid for off road) they introduced in 07 along with the smog crap around here

I used the Baja Designs smog block-off kit, a simple conversion, re-jetted and such and runs pretty good now. Also have the 2.3 tank, which is plenty of go-juice for me.....no way I could do more than 50 miles in a day, even in my dreams, now!

[Yak A Tech]

Jim, my 2005 450X was originally sold in CA and it came with all the smog crap installed - of course, it has since been removed.
Just an FYI......

Really ?? , wow , i thought Ca. didnt get to them till 07 , i am pretty sure the rest of the states did not have it till 07 (not sure about Wa. state since it seems to follow Ca. guidelines , but in Idaho and Oregon , i know for a fact did not have it till 07 , so 05-06 was the bike to have , also had the 2.3 tank stock instead of the useless 1.9 (which is stupid for off road) they introduced in 07 along with the smog crap around here

It would make since as my head has the "place" for the smog stuff but it was never there.

JD kit should be here monday, along with a couple other goodies. Thought I would give some support so I ordered from here, even got the crf only tugger. Which looks like a good thing to put on the bike, even though I could have just made one, as my mom owns a small online business and does sewing herself for some products.

What kind of things do you guys carry with you trail riding? I won't be going on 90 mile rides with out returning to the truck a few different times. So, what should one bring when riding a four stroke? I don't assume spark plugs is on that list 😅 I've been thinking about getting a hydration pack, as the other day was tough on me and I felt exhausted, especially after not hydrating all day and having some rough times on the trail. I went off a steep hill on the side of a trail, I have learned I need to work out some, and to just lay the bike down before going off the trail on a hill like that! It wouldn't have been so bad if there wasn't a foot or more of leaves. Had to get a couple of guys that was passing by to help me out (my group had went ahead). It was funny when one guy thought he was gonna jump on and ride it up the hill. He never made it an inch 😂

[JimDirt]

Carry items on the trail , really depend on the trail or terrain/area you will be riding , i personally carry (in my backpack) , a Hydration Bladder , though sometimes i just take some Muscle Milk and Gatorade bottles to drink , being hydrated will help more than food if you have a spill and have to work to get the bike back on the trail , i do also carry a few snack bars (usually something with Protein like a Power Bar or something with Peanut Butter , as i am Hypoglycemic (low Blood Sugar)

As far as tools or repair items , i keep a bicycle pump (the long tube type you have for a 10 speed bicycle) , or you can carry some CO2 cartridges with a inflation valve , also i have a Tubliss on the rear of my 450X , filled with Slime , a spare tube is handy to carry (a 21" is best so you can use it front or rear if necessary , if you dont want to carry a tube (i dont) , you can (like me) carry a patch kit , so you can fix your tube and continue riding if needed , i even carry a small plastic set of tire irons (found at Wal-Mart in the bicycle section) they are about 3" , and will get the job done if you have a flat

I keep a Multi-Tool and a small pair of Vice Grips (they are about 3") , the Vice Grips come in handy for anything from holding a broken clutch cable to the lever so you can ride back safely , to using it as a actual tool , a Phillips and Flat screwdriver for either suspension or carb adjustments , and a few assorted Metric nuts and bolts that might work loose , and a roll of electrical tape , most of which would be taken on longer rides , but some of the items should be with you if your going more than 1 mile from camp/parking , just for safety reasons so you can get back

There is no "bring this" list , its all kind of subjective to your riding situation , short rides or long , the key is to be able to make it back to the truck , so if you have to fix a flat to do it , or use the electrical tape to hold the blood in from the gash in your arm , then that is what you need to take , you don't need 20 lbs of stuff , just a few key items that you think might come in handy "just in case"

Not trying to be vague , its just there is no take this and all will be well , answer , basically common sense things for the environment you will be in

And i as well have 2 CRF Tuggers (1 front/1 rear) on my X , its a heavy bugger when its on the ground , or stuck in a mud hole

[MattBennett23]

We used to have a tool kit that we had attached to the rear fender of my XR250. It was huge, and held all the tools we would need and more. We had a a lighter and duct tape and a tow rope and everything in that, lol... It also used to smack me in the butt everytime I hit a whoop...

When I bought my CRF250X, I told him we were not putting one of those on it, lol... Both of our bikes are in good condition, so breakdowns are rare now. My Uncle now carries the essential tools in a Moose Race Pack fanny pack while we ride. Not quite as many tools as before but we keep the basics. He has a small ratchet wrench and the main size sockets for our bikes. A couple of Allen Wrenches. I believe he still keeps a lighter in there and some electrical tape too, just in case.

We also carry hydration packs. We have MSR Hydro Trail systems which hold a large water bladder and have a large front pocket on them that can be used to carry other items if needed. We have radios that we carry in the front pockets so we can communicate while riding, but it could definitely hold a few tools if needed. I dont think its made anymore but they have worked well for us.

http://www.mooseracing.com/products/?productGroupId=87170&productId=174326

http://motorcycleridergear.com/category/bags-all-type/motorcycle-gear-bags/hydration-packs/

[RLPII]

The lists from Jim and Matt are pretty much what most carry I think. I carry an assortment of small tools in a small Moose fanny pack and I have a water pack, cell phone, and a GPS. The only thing different is on the tube and repair kit. I carry several heavy duty zip ties with the plan that I would zip tie the tire to the wheel if it goes flat and hope I make it back to the truck. I don't usually go all that far from the truck though - but it would be a long ride with a flat tire! So far I have not had to test my theory....knock on wood!
But, it is a lot of personal choice I guess and after you get to know your bike things will be added to the list. I think the best thing to take along is a riding buddy!
Good luck!

[MattBennett23]

Ya luckily we have never had a flat on the trail (knock on wood), so we dont carry all the tire gear. The trails we ride we usually arent to far from a road or two track. If we got a flat we could probably limp it out to somewhere where we can pick it up with the truck. I guess thats the hope anyways, lol....

[JimDirt]

Yea , the last flat i had on my X(before i got the Tubliss and before i started carrying repair stuff) , was 10 miles from where i parked , riding alone , in the woods , at the top of a mountain , i had to ride back on the flat , it was a long slow squirrely ride on some sketchy trails , pinch flat on Lava Rock

The next time after that , out in the desert , about 12 miles from where i parked , this time i was riding with someone , but like before , i tore the tube so no fixing it (i usually run 6-7 psi in the back of my X with a Tube , i run about the same on the R , on the MX track on the R i run 8-10 psi , after that i got the Tubliss for the X , but i still carry the tube repair stuff in my backpack just in case i need it for the other bike , or my front tire

If i ride with someone (usually someone riding my 450R) I feel better knowing i have the stuff to fix the tire , so that way if it gets a flat (it has a 19" rim so its easier to get pinch flats with lower PSI) , i at least have the things to patch it up enough to get it home (unless the tube or valve stem tears) , the majority of my rides are 50 miles minimum , so 25+ away from camp or the parking lot , and 25+ back , so you have to be prepared for most anything , at the end of the day , the extra weight is worth it , for that 1 time when you actually need the stuff

[Yak A Tech]

I got the JD kit installed, the tugger on, the R&D flex screw installed, and the snorkel off. The little filters I was talking about is a no go, I didn't realize how small the top of the air box was. SO, the debate is to cut the little vents out in the side of the air box, or not to. I originally didn't want to, but it seems so many people do.

Didn't get to crank it because I tore the air filter taking it off to prep it.... Oh well, it looked like it has seen better days anyway.

I like the uni air filter on my KDX, but what do you guys run? I need to order one tonight so when I get off in a couple of days it'll be here. I use the No-Toil kit to prep my filters to, if that makes a difference.

[JimDirt]

I personally use Moose and UNI filters , i like the fit and durability , for oil for the filter , i use K&N Filter oil (spray) , its Biodegradable so i can wash my filters in the sink with hot water and not worry , i also use a PC Racing filter seal , to make sure no dirt gets by the filter seal
http://www.crfsonly.com/catalog/product ... ts_id/3205

I personally don't like No-Toil as it seems to thick and messy for my likes , i think if you clean a filter and then use lighter oil the engine will breath better and still stay clean without running richer because of the thicker filter oil

As far as the side vents go , i opened mine up and i also cut the entire top off the airbox , i did it really clean so it looks like its supposed to be that way , and actually stayed on the top edge instead of cutting down the sides like most people seem to do , and sanded everything smooth and rounded so it looks like it came from the factory like that , i also took fine cloth mesh (looks like window screen but way way finer , usually used for PC fans to filter out dirt), and glued that to the openings (on the inside so outside it looks clean) , this lets the airbox get more air without getting chunks of dirt inside , the filter stays cleaner than it would with just the holes