Toy Haulers?
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    Roady
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    by Roady » Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:37 pm

    KevinM wrote:The down sides are... it sucks gas like crazy. 6 mpg to 10 mpg. Depending
    on load, conditions and how you drive...it cost $65K new....you have to
    take it everwhere as opposed to unhitching the pickup and driving into
    town. It's another big engine you'll have to maintain that's dedicated
    to the RV.. unlike the pickup you can use for work, etc.


    Don't forget insurance ... just paid the insurance for my travel trailer of $120 for the year ... guessing a motorhome is a bit more for tags, insurance and maintenance.
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    by nowazzu » Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:00 pm

    You'll hear 2 sides of the 1/2 ton truck argument. The fact is, a 1/2 ton truck can tow a lot of trailers. The real question is: How long will it tow it before you trash a tranny, chew through brakes and basically wear the thing out. I went the 1/2 ton route, up to a 3/4 ton and finally a 1 ton before I "got it". Hell, I'm thinking I may need to upgrade to a MDT just to tow my current trailer for a long time.
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  • Mr Smith

    by Mr Smith » Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:18 pm

    My rig. It can be a bit cramped if we have to stay inside but I only have one kid left whos 15...Then its all ours. And like whats been said earlier...Its a helluva lot better then camping in a tent... :D WW FK1900

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    by KevinM » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:38 pm

    Roady wrote:
    KevinM wrote:The down sides are... it sucks gas like crazy. 6 mpg to 10 mpg. Depending
    on load, conditions and how you drive...it cost $65K new....you have to
    take it everwhere as opposed to unhitching the pickup and driving into
    town. It's another big engine you'll have to maintain that's dedicated
    to the RV.. unlike the pickup you can use for work, etc.


    Don't forget insurance ... just paid the insurance for my travel trailer of $120 for the year ... guessing a motorhome is a bit more for tags, insurance and maintenance.


    I think the insurance on the RV is about $500 per year. It's lower than a typical vehicle because they estimate the annual milage to be low... about 5000 miles per year.

    One other nice thing about some of the Toy Haulers.. even the Ultra-light ones.. is the built-in fuel station and air compressor. Forget which one offered those options.

    So far I'm liking the Class RV path. Though I wish I had more driveway space for it.
    09 CRF 450R
    07 CRF 250R
    45 plt /175 main /JD Red-5th pos
    FS 2 trns
    05 CRF 250X
    42 Plt /162 Main /JD Red Needle- 5th pos
    CRFsOnly Fuel Screw 1-7/8 trns out (2 turns winter)
    TwinAir PowerFlo Kit /Opened Airbox /White Bros E2
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    by palmrider230 » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:46 pm

    Cant you use a trailer as a income tax write-off,thats what the RV dealers were telling me?
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    by KevinM » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:49 pm

    palmrider230 wrote:Cant you use a trailer as a income tax write-off,thats what the RV dealers were telling me?


    Yes. If you finance it, the interest is like that of a second mortgage, being that it's a Home... of a sort.

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    09 CRF 450R
    07 CRF 250R
    45 plt /175 main /JD Red-5th pos
    FS 2 trns
    05 CRF 250X
    42 Plt /162 Main /JD Red Needle- 5th pos
    CRFsOnly Fuel Screw 1-7/8 trns out (2 turns winter)
    TwinAir PowerFlo Kit /Opened Airbox /White Bros E2
  • Mr Smith

    by Mr Smith » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:49 pm

    Yes, its like your home.
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    by Asmith » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:58 pm

    Mr Smith wrote:Yes, its like your home.


    Especially if you live in a mobile home... :lol:
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    by palmrider230 » Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:14 pm

    If I live in my car is that the same?
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    by hawkster » Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:47 pm

    We didn't get the toy hauler but got a 24 ft tow trailer. Two bikes in the truck. Bought a nice set of ramps so I can ride on/off the bed. About 7500 lbs with bikes so towable by 1/2 ton I guess. But I got the Dodge Cummins diesel since I am thinking about upgrading the trailer in, er, retirement.
    2005 450 X
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    "It's better to burn out than fade away".
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    by Roady » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:10 pm

    hawkster wrote:But I got the Dodge Cummins diesel since I am thinking about upgrading the trailer in, er, retirement.


    Good call ... you can't get too much truck but you can get too little.
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    by bmtz14 » Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:53 am

    With an unmodified 1/2 ton truck, you'll be limited on the size of toybox to something around 21 feet. You can probably go to about about a 25-26ft with air bags and lower gearing. Aluminum sided trailers weigh less than fiberglass anywhere from 300 to 700 pounds depending on trailer length. Unfortunately, toybox manufacturers weigh the trailer as a bare box, before installing beds, cabinets, appliances, etc. They do this to get a lower declared weight so that they can sell bigger trailers to those with 1/2 ton trucks and SUV's. Prior to buying a trailer, take it to a certified truck scale and compare the actual weight with the declared weight to insure that the trailer will not overload the vehicle's tow capacity.
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    by Mr Smith » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:25 am

    bmtz14 wrote:Prior to buying a trailer, take it to a certified truck scale and compare the actual weight with the declared weight to insure that the trailer will not overload the vehicle's tow capacity.


    This is good advice and all but what dealer really lets you hook up to a trailer you havent signed papers on and tow it to a scale? Im thinking thats highly unlikely.
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    by 2wheel-lee » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:25 pm

    Although it doesn't sound like an issue on this board, many guys on some of the other boards (for the Dodge Turbo Diesel) run overloaded.

    If you're considering risking your life and others by running overloaded, please read a bit of this thread on another board; you may think otherwise. http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/ind ... opic=24262

    I used to pull a 4000 pound trailer behind a '98 Dodge Ram 1500 with 500 pounds in the bed, and I didn't care for it. It pulled it ok, and when the trailer brakes worked, it stopped ok, but I think it wasn't so great. I couldn't imagine having another 4k back there. That's why I stepped it up to a 2500 with the CTD.
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    by new2crf » Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:39 pm

    I have a 24 foot Ragen and is about 5,500 dry. I pull it with a 2500 chevy 6.0L . The only problem is it sucks the gas. I have used my 1/2 ton it pull it around town it did ok. Just wish I had the chevy 2500 with the DM.
    2004 250X
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