clutch not disengaging stays in gear
  • timmy2648
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    Re: clutch not disengaging stays in gear

    by timmy2648 » Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:46 pm

    Well all those parts are wear items and you can compare to new parts.

    If the baskets were really bad an wobbled they can get wear on the thrust washer.

    Check the fit of the arm in the alloy housing to make sure you are not losing clutch travel there as well.

    I have ordered a new clutch cable and a new actuator arm to see if that fixes it because the cable was an aftermarket one that is supposed to be like oem and the actuator arm looks to me it has some wear on it to be changed out I’m still waiting on it to come in I have only seen one adjustment on the cable is there another adjustment besides the one at the top right before it goes into the lever?
  • Aussiecrf230
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    Re: clutch not disengaging stays in gear

    by Aussiecrf230 » Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:13 pm

    Older bikes did have adjustment at both ends.
    Modern bikes not so much.

    Compare length of new cable to the one currently installed when it arrives.
    Ray
    Australia

    CRF230F 2004
    C30F Power Up needle
    Mains 132
    Idle 45
    2 turns out
    Baffle out, Screens In

    It starts,it runs,it gets to where all CRFs can get to without the valve or valve plate dramas
  • timmy2648
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    Re: clutch not disengaging stays in gear

    by timmy2648 » Tue Aug 02, 2022 1:58 pm

    Well all those parts are wear items and you can compare to new parts.

    If the baskets were really bad an wobbled they can get wear on the thrust washer.

    Check the fit of the arm in the alloy housing to make sure you are not losing clutch travel there as well.
    i just put in the new actuator arm and i moved it and noticed the push rod that is supposed to move from it isn't moving when i move the actuator arm i was putting pressure on the rod to push it towards the actuator and i felt very little if any movement i didn't see it push out or feel any pressure coming from the rod, could the rod be the problem or is there something else that the rod should have pressure with?
  • Aussiecrf230
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    Re: clutch not disengaging stays in gear

    by Aussiecrf230 » Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:01 pm

    Hi, was wondering how you were going with the clutch.

    Have a look at the diagram and make sure everything is assembled in correct order to start with.

    So with the rod against the arm, and you move the arm it doesn't push on the rod towards the engine?
    It doesn't have to move it far to provide clearance to the clutch plates to disengage. Basically an eccentric/cam where the arm pushes the rod.

    https://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche.co ... )%20CLUTCH
    Ray
    Australia

    CRF230F 2004
    C30F Power Up needle
    Mains 132
    Idle 45
    2 turns out
    Baffle out, Screens In

    It starts,it runs,it gets to where all CRFs can get to without the valve or valve plate dramas
  • timmy2648
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    Re: clutch not disengaging stays in gear

    by timmy2648 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:51 pm

    Hi, was wondering how you were going with the clutch.

    Have a look at the diagram and make sure everything is assembled in correct order to start with.

    So with the rod against the arm, and you move the arm it doesn't push on the rod towards the engine?
    It doesn't have to move it far to provide clearance to the clutch plates to disengage. Basically an eccentric/cam where the arm pushes the rod.

    https://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche.co ... )%20CLUTCH
    im still having the same problem i didnt put it all the way back together when i noticed the rod wasnt moving and if it was it was so little i didnt notice it but the only part of the clutch system i havent changed is the thrust washer and the rod but im not feeling any movement in that arm
  • Aussiecrf230
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    Re: clutch not disengaging stays in gear

    by Aussiecrf230 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:47 pm

    The arm the clutch cable connects to only rotates. The end that the pushrod sits in is basically a small cam that pushes the pushrod.
    It doesn’t have to move far to release the clutch.

    I assume the piece it pushes on in the clutch pack (part 8 in diagram in previous post) is actually installed along with the thrust washer otherwise the pushrod can’t move the pressure plate to reduce spring tension.
    Check if clip is still on end as well. Seen fall of from being reused multiple times.

    Have a look at this animation it might give you a better idea.


    Hope that helps.
    Ray
    Australia

    CRF230F 2004
    C30F Power Up needle
    Mains 132
    Idle 45
    2 turns out
    Baffle out, Screens In

    It starts,it runs,it gets to where all CRFs can get to without the valve or valve plate dramas
  • timmy2648
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    Re: clutch not disengaging stays in gear

    by timmy2648 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:16 am

    The arm the clutch cable connects to only rotates. The end that the pushrod sits in is basically a small cam that pushes the pushrod.
    It doesn’t have to move far to release the clutch.

    I assume the piece it pushes on in the clutch pack (part 8 in diagram in previous post) is actually installed along with the thrust washer otherwise the pushrod can’t move the pressure plate to reduce spring tension.
    Check if clip is still on end as well. Seen fall of from being reused multiple times.

    Have a look at this animation it might give you a better idea.


    Hope that helps.
    Sorry with it being awhile i gave up on the bike for awhile but i looked back at it and the old springs on the clutch pack fit better than the new springs along with this the arm that the cable pulls to disengage the clutch goes all the way to the rubber boot where the cable meets the tube that it rides in so the arm has to much room them and doesnt have pressure on the pressure plate im assuming?

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