tight turns
  • newbie68
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    tight turns

    by newbie68 » Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:03 am

    I barely started riding about 2 months ago i have a 05 crf100. i can only do big turns i dont know how to turn tight turns. can someone help me out? and how do i go through whoops? thanks!
  • ev
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    by ev » Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:00 am

    depends on where, when and on what bike,newbie68

    on track with a smoker or real thumper, point your frontend directly to the apex of the turn, hit the rear brake, let it slide until you face the direction you want to go and gas it out of the turn

    on a small bike or in thight stuff it is all about momentum and body position

    my favourite place to ride used to be a mountain bike park, single trails in v e r y tight switchbacks with not much straight between the turns

    practise on even, clear terrain, put up some markers for a small slalom and/or figure 8

    choose the right gear before you hit the corner, use 2nd to practise, go slow, sit, later stand very forward with your ellbows up and out, you shouldn't brake too hard, part of the 'trick' is carrying momentum thru the turn, since your bike is not capable to accelerate as hard ...,
    do not look at your front wheel, look far ahead, you will go where your eyes go, so look at the exit of the corner, do not only turn your head, but your whole upper body including the handlebars, when you are still slow you will stir the bike with the handlebars, when you get faster you will use your weight more and more to lean the bike into the turn, you stay upright, keep your body perpendicular to the ground even when the bike is leaned way to the side, keep your elbows up and out, weight the outside peg - the further you lean the bike, the more weight you put on the outside peg, this should happen naturally when you keep your body straight up, as you lean the bike your outside leg has a shorter distance to the foot peg, put your weight on it,
    when you sit you can use your inner foot/leg as counterweight and stretch it foreward/upward with your foot above the front axle, the knee straight, do not bend the knee, do not drag your foot, if you stand do not squeeze the gastank, if you ballance the bike with your body position, you do not need to cling on, once you passed the apex of the turn gas it, let the bike get upright, if you sat during the turn get up and forward to face the acceleration without pulling on the bars

    :oops: reread this
    even puzzles me now, but if you do something long enough it turns into an automatism and disappeares in your subconscious
    so please try to make a picture from what bits and pieces I found in the dark and ask questions if you find a piece is missing

    as boring as it is, a figure 8/slalom drill will help you a lot
    and if you know someone with a camera, have him/her film you
  • redrider911
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    by redrider911 » Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:39 pm

    practice doing figure eights in your backyard. In crease speed and tighten the turn as you get better. Practice, practice, practice!!
  • newbie68
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    by newbie68 » Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:32 pm

    ev wrote:depends on where, when and on what bike,newbie68

    on track with a smoker or real thumper, point your frontend directly to the apex of the turn, hit the rear brake, let it slide until you face the direction you want to go and gas it out of the turn

    on a small bike or in thight stuff it is all about momentum and body position

    my favourite place to ride used to be a mountain bike park, single trails in v e r y tight switchbacks with not much straight between the turns

    practise on even, clear terrain, put up some markers for a small slalom and/or figure 8

    choose the right gear before you hit the corner, use 2nd to practise, go slow, sit, later stand very forward with your ellbows up and out, you shouldn't brake too hard, part of the 'trick' is carrying momentum thru the turn, since your bike is not capable to accelerate as hard ...,
    do not look at your front wheel, look far ahead, you will go where your eyes go, so look at the exit of the corner, do not only turn your head, but your whole upper body including the handlebars, when you are still slow you will stir the bike with the handlebars, when you get faster you will use your weight more and more to lean the bike into the turn, you stay upright, keep your body perpendicular to the ground even when the bike is leaned way to the side, keep your elbows up and out, weight the outside peg - the further you lean the bike, the more weight you put on the outside peg, this should happen naturally when you keep your body straight up, as you lean the bike your outside leg has a shorter distance to the foot peg, put your weight on it,
    when you sit you can use your inner foot/leg as counterweight and stretch it foreward/upward with your foot above the front axle, the knee straight, do not bend the knee, do not drag your foot, if you stand do not squeeze the gastank, if you ballance the bike with your body position, you do not need to cling on, once you passed the apex of the turn gas it, let the bike get upright, if you sat during the turn get up and forward to face the acceleration without pulling on the bars

    :oops: reread this
    even puzzles me now, but if you do something long enough it turns into an automatism and disappeares in your subconscious
    so please try to make a picture from what bits and pieces I found in the dark and ask questions if you find a piece is missing

    as boring as it is, a figure 8/slalom drill will help you a lot
    and if you know someone with a camera, have him/her film you


    wuts an apex? and a smoker? and a thumper? yeah i kno nothing haha. ive never ridden on a track. thers no trakc near where i live, but im gonna go to one soon, my brother usually takes me to glamis to ride or heber beach or superstition,and thers some tight turns there and i dont know how to go through them...i really didnt get anything you said...sorry..
  • ev
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    by ev » Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:47 pm

    apex = turning point
    smoker = 2 stroke
    thumper = 4 stroke

    don't dare asking 'what is a 4 stroke'

    and do you speak English, too?
    I do not understand haubau
  • Joker7Icp
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    by Joker7Icp » Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:49 pm

    YEa it was the same with me when I got mine cause of how much bigger the bike was then me :( I am short
    (shut up) I couldnt really turn around.. Then It came to be turn like I do on my bike Lean your weight to the side and sticking your foot out helps?? I think it does for me I dont know but try that. oh and go slow .. thats all
    I got a CRF 150
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    motokid54
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    by motokid54 » Thu Sep 01, 2005 6:24 am

    newbie
    how much of a back yard do you have. Ive got about 2 acres of ridable land. If you have enough land bug your parents untill they let you build a small training track all it takes is a shovle and some time off your bike. all you need is a 2berm turns and flat turns one tight and one wide if you have enough room you should put in a jump. but do the turns first whoops arnt really necessary run your turns both ways so you dont get used to turning one way. dont expect to go to a track and ride like ricky if you hve the room practice every day
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