where are the women?
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    crfsonly
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    by crfsonly » Sun Sep 19, 2004 3:35 pm

    bpamp...i don't have a 230 so i can't speak from direct experience...but i do have three bikes that are of similar design (xr400, xr100 and xr70). These bikes exhibit the same tendancies that you are describing with your CRF230F.

    here's what i've learned with my xr400. it's all related to flooding the motor...so, when i crash/get off/tip over...if i'm able i'll quickly turn the petcock off. this helps a lot. i can usually turn it off faster than i can get the bick up so it helps to limit the flow of fuel. second, if i'm lucky enough to be on a slope i'll 'bump start' instead of trying to kick it (the xr400 doesn't have THE button). if you're not in a hurry, giving it some time for the fuel to evaporate will help to.

    however, the best advice i could give you is to not crash...this has several advantages...one, engine stays running; two, it doesn't hurt like crashing does; and three, bike retains that "new bike" look longer. ;)
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    by ev » Sun Sep 19, 2004 5:20 pm

    crfsonly wrote:...the best advice i could give you is to not crash...

    b/s Ken :evil:
    you grew up on two wheels, it is easy for you to make fun of us latecommers
    but speed, riding technique and confidence come in stages
    every time you try to climb to the next level you start crashing more again
    Barb still has some levels to climb
    she will do her share of picking up her 230
    even though women normally do not spill as much as men do,
    their motoric skills are better and they tend to turn on their brains before they twist the throttle
    OK, that also slows them down, but ...
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    by crfsonly » Sun Sep 19, 2004 5:29 pm

    ev...i'm a latecomer on dirtbikes too...and trust me i have my fair share of get offs...then and now...some very spectacular too. and i agree crashing is part of the learning curve...the ;) at the end of my 'best advice' comment was a clue...
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    by ev » Sat Nov 06, 2004 5:34 pm

    I found one!
    guys, you will not believe this
    last Monday we were at Whissenhunt OHV,
    the Bear riding with Chris, I riding with Kinzie (Chris' wife)
    YES!!!
    one brave female
    the first I found here so far
    no she does not outrace me, jet ;)
    but she made great progress in only one ride and we will ride together again next Monday
    she thinks riding with me is not near as intimidating as riding with her hubby
    his noisy smoker makes her very nervous

    now we have one TTR125L too many
    and lack a nice beginners bike for a 5ft7 girl
    used, not too expensive, not too much power, button or easy to start
    CRF230?
    KDX200?
    what else comes to your mind?
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    by hondafan » Sat Nov 06, 2004 7:53 pm

    DRZ-250
    KTM-200EXC
    TT-R225
    TT-R250
    XR-200
    XR-250
    CRF-230
    KDX-200
    CR-125
    2008 crf 450



    sold-2001 cr250, 2004 crf150, 2003 cr250, 1991 KX80, 2003 TT-R125
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    by ev » Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:02 am

    DRZ250 never seen one in RL
    KTM-200EXC definitely NOT a beginners bike, not cheap
    TT-R225 please, she already has a piece of trash
    TT-R250 too heavy, top heavy
    XR-200
    XR-250 with original carb a hard starter
    CRF-230
    KDX-200
    CR-125 definitely not a beginners bike

    so the list of possible bikes grows
    we now need to get rid of my SV650
    then I will buy his XR650L
    and she will get a decent bike ;)
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    by hondafan » Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:15 pm

    the CR-125 is THE slowest 125 2 stroke out there. so i would classify it as a beginners bike.


    you said the TT-R250 was "too heavy, top heavy". ever rode one?
    2008 crf 450



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    by ev » Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:02 pm

    YES
    of course
    #4 of our cloverleaf rides one, we swap bikes every now and then

    not every beginner weighs 200+lb
    and some are even shorter than 6ft
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    by hondafan » Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:35 pm

    ohh... i see. the CR-125 "is not a beginners bike"- so that means the CRF-250X will be perfect for her. :lol:
    2008 crf 450



    sold-2001 cr250, 2004 crf150, 2003 cr250, 1991 KX80, 2003 TT-R125
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    by ev » Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:32 pm

    not really
    too tall
    she can barely tippytoe mine
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    by 63vettegal » Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:52 pm

    [quote="ev"

    now we have one TTR125L too many
    and lack a nice beginners bike for a 5ft7 girl
    used, not too expensive, not too much power, button or easy to start
    CRF230?
    KDX200?
    what else comes to your mind?[/quote]


    How about a Gas-Gas Pampera? I almost got one of those before I bought my CRF230. It's a nice riding bike,really easy to start (no button, though) and weighs less than a 230. It's was a little pricey and I'm a Honda gal, hence my purchase. However, if you aren't loyal to Honda, the Pampera is a good beginner's bike for a lady.
    “Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
    WOW---WHAT A RIDE!!â€￾
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    by ev » Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:22 am

    double posted - sorry
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    by ev » Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:22 am

    already commented on the Pampera, Charon
    "the 230 sure is a good choice
    and a lot less trouble than the Pampera"
    my loyalty is not the point :P am not loyal at all, but a bit biased
    Kinzie needs an affortable mount, guess she will stick with the (ab)used KDX of a friend
    but as real grits she thinks 35 degree is too cold to ride:roll: and we'll postpone the testrides, the KDX owner wants his wife to try Kinzies TTR ...
    other than that
    we only have one GasGas dealer, one non-rush-hour away, on the other side of town, and we already had a cat fight, he does not even have a Pampera on the floor, why should he, women are to be kept in the kitchen, barefooted and pregnant @#$%
    don't know if I like the new Pampera, I loved the original Frankenstein playbike the Spaniards built as a joke during lunchbreak, the 250 weighted 171lb, she'd bottom on both ends on a bumpy straight, but was close to indestructable and the engine was superb (the 320 was a piect of trash, tho), when they civilized her, changed primary gearing, tamed the engine, put a battery and turn signals on ... she lost a lot of the fun factor
    remember her?
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