CRF 230F stator
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    Tech23
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    CRF 230F stator

    by Tech23 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:59 pm

    I'm curious, is a CRF 230F's factory stator a bolt in replacement on a CRF 150? Rather than sending my stator out for a rewind to add lighting capability to my kick start only bike. Would the 230's stator be a worthy upgrade to power a Baja Designs lighting kit? Other than the Baja designs lighting kit, and the 230's stator would I need anything else, I don't have a battery to keep fully charged. Will the 230 stator assembly fit inside the 150's stator cover?

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    by gal8x » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:17 am

    The OEM 230 stator is not designed to run a light. The winding necessary is simply not there. You will need a stator and regulator. The regulator will be for the extra winding and will service that winding only.
    2005 CRF450X (plated)
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    by Tech23 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:59 am

    gal8x wrote:The OEM 230 stator is not designed to run a light. The winding necessary is simply not there. You will need a stator and regulator. The regulator will be for the extra winding and will service that winding only.


    Thanks for the reply...

    Why then are there two different dual sport lighting kits for the CRF's? One kit is for the 230 and 06 and up 150's both are electric start models without (factory) lighting.

    http://www.bajadesigns.com/ProductDetai ... ber=121050

    Here's a note from the kit above

    This kit does not require the stator to be rewound however Baja Designs highly recommends it for better lighting potential. Please call (760) 560 2252 to have this service performed. Cost is $120, turnaround time is 3-5 working days.

    The other kit is for 2003-2005 CRF 150F kick start only models without (factory)lighting and requires a stator rewind modification.

    http://www.bajadesigns.com/ProductDetai ... r=121300RD

    Here a note from this kit...

    -CRF150's & CRF450's require stator rewind to run this kit. The stator must be sent to Baja Designs to have this service performed. Price is $120 for the CRF150, $150 for the CRF450. 3-5 day turnaround time.

    I'm not looking for blazing light, just enough the satisfy the AZ MVD, which I don't believe is hard to do. If I picked up a 230 stator I wouldn't be able to accomplish that based on the notes on the kits above?

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    by gal8x » Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:22 am

    I don’t know what the difference is between the two. If you don’t match the stator with the light then you will run the battery down when you ride.
    I had a 06 crf230, when I put a light on it I also changed out the stator and added a regulator.
    I am currently riding a crf450x with a BD dual sport kit (stock stator), and I am not satisfied with the 35watt output from the light, but before I can upgrade I will need to change the stator and regulator.
    I can tell you for a fact you would do yourself an injustice if you don’t buy your kit thru CRF’S ONLY. Check out this thread…
    http://www.crfsonly.com/forum/viewtopic ... highlight=
    He did exactly that! New switch is on the way. So don’t shy away from the BD kit, it is a good kit. And it looks like BD was aware of the switch issue and has started using a different model. Concerning the taillight issue I had, I take responsibility. I have no pics so I won’t describe in detail. I can recommend you mount the taillight assembly by drilling thru the top of the fender.
    2005 CRF450X (plated)
    "Can't never could do anything"
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    by Tech23 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:31 am

    gal8x wrote:I don’t know what the difference is between the two. If you don’t match the stator with the light then you will run the battery down when you ride.
    I had a 06 crf230, when I put a light on it I also changed out the stator and added a regulator.
    I am currently riding a crf450x with a BD dual sport kit (stock stator), and I am not satisfied with the 35watt output from the light, but before I can upgrade I will need to change the stator and regulator.
    I can tell you for a fact you would do yourself an injustice if you don’t buy your kit thru CRF’S ONLY. Check out this thread…
    http://www.crfsonly.com/forum/viewtopic ... highlight=
    He did exactly that! New switch is on the way. So don’t shy away from the BD kit, it is a good kit. And it looks like BD was aware of the switch issue and has started using a different model. Concerning the taillight issue I had, I take responsibility. I have no pics so I won’t describe in detail. I can recommend you mount the taillight assembly by drilling thru the top of the fender.


    Yea, it looks like the recommended stator rewind is the way to go for my application. I was thinking maybe I could get a used 230 stator cheap and accomplish the same thing. It looks like I'd accomplish cheap and end up with a circuit I have no use for along with an insufficient circuit for lighting.. BTW way your 450X is awesome!

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    lights

    by chillyengineer » Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:46 pm

    I have a 230 that has always had lighting kit on ,no problems at all ,from stock stator,its designed to run lights
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    by Aussiecrf230 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:53 am

    Mine too runs two 35w halogens with no problems.
    Standard output is 107 Watts which leaves 37W to run/charge.
    Never had a over a problem over a weekend ride with lots of starts.


    How many watts is the rewound stator?
    Ray
    Australia

    CRF230F 2004
    C30F Power Up needle
    Mains 132
    Idle 45
    2 turns out
    Baffle out, Screens In

    It starts,it runs,it gets to where all CRFs can get to without the valve or valve plate dramas
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    by gal8x » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:59 am

    I checked around and it looks like models built for European countries are designed to run lights, but the bikes in the US have 55-60watt stators. Not enough to run lights.
    Why would you build a bike to run lights then not put the light on it?
    Aftermarket stators for the 230 range from 110 to 150 watts.
    2005 CRF450X (plated)
    "Can't never could do anything"
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    by Aussiecrf230 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:41 am

    You wouldn't think having different stators for different countries would be cost effective. Glad mine is 107 Watts.
    Ray
    Australia

    CRF230F 2004
    C30F Power Up needle
    Mains 132
    Idle 45
    2 turns out
    Baffle out, Screens In

    It starts,it runs,it gets to where all CRFs can get to without the valve or valve plate dramas

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