need jetting info
  • crf100rider21
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    need jetting info

    by crf100rider21 » Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:03 pm

    i am about to rejet my bike and i need to know what all to put on it

    it pops and cracks on decel and when i rev it with the clutch in

    i have a big gun pipe and a uni filter

    don't know anything about the carb set up backus i bought the bike used
    Ben

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    big gun pipe
    Power up kit
    pro taper bars
    protaper bark busters

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    gal8x
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    by gal8x » Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:13 pm

    you might want to install a Crf's Only fuel/air screw first, since you already have the power-up kit.
    it will also help to know at what altitude you are riding. 8)
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    by crf100rider21 » Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:35 pm

    i'm in east tennessee

    if that helps

    the person i bought it from said it had the power up kit but i don't think it does

    but idk
    Ben

    Honda crf230
    big gun pipe
    Power up kit
    pro taper bars
    protaper bark busters

    Mazda b2300
    tinted windows
    custom sound system
    flo tec with dauls commin out the back
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    by 13slick13 » Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:34 pm

    crf100rider21,

    If u have a big gun pipe and not the power up kit you'd know it. It would'nt run for .. All i did was take out the baffel and snorkle and mine ran really bad before i put the power up kit in. I already had the kit just wanted a before and after feel before i put it in.
    "Thanks To CRF'S Only"
    2006 CRF230F
    C30F Power Up needle
    132 Main
    Airbox Snorkel out
    Big Gun Evo X Exhaust
    K&N Airfilter
    BBR rev box
    14 tooth front sprocket 47 rear.
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    Re: need jetting info

    by gal8x » Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:35 pm

    crf100rider21 wrote:it pops and cracks on decel and when i rev it with the clutch in


    if this is all the bike is doing then the fuel/air screw will alow you to fine tune your engine.

    some "pops and cracks" are normal. i have found that when i tune them out completely the motor runs better when hot but, not that much... and it's harder to start.

    i'm new at this too so i'm still experimenting. i'm convinced that with an after market pipe (i have a Pro Circuit T-4) the air box needs to be opened more.

    take the cover plate off and you should notice a slightly faster throttle response.

    i have the project on hold until after next month when i'll install a new piston and cam. ;)

    finding the right combination is important. there are a ton of threads here to help you just look around.
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    by crf100rider21 » Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:59 am

    i took the snorkel off one time and it ran horrible

    it just bogged out every time i gave it gas

    how would i tune out the pops?
    Ben

    Honda crf230
    big gun pipe
    Power up kit
    pro taper bars
    protaper bark busters

    Mazda b2300
    tinted windows
    custom sound system
    flo tec with dauls commin out the back
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    by 13slick13 » Sun Apr 29, 2007 7:24 pm

    It should'nt bog with the snorkel out once it warms up. it is important that you tune your bike based on how it runs when it's warm as far as the poping on decel goes mine does that too but it runs great so i dont worry about it. When u do the power up kit most people only change the needle and main jet i was thinking of changing the pilot jet to, but idk i like it the way it is now but if you go up in your pilot jet size that may help you.
    "Thanks To CRF'S Only"
    2006 CRF230F
    C30F Power Up needle
    132 Main
    Airbox Snorkel out
    Big Gun Evo X Exhaust
    K&N Airfilter
    BBR rev box
    14 tooth front sprocket 47 rear.
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    by gal8x » Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:11 pm

    crf100rider21 wrote:i took the snorkel off one time and it ran horrible

    it just bogged out every time i gave it gas


    Ok let me give it to you strait. when a power up kit is installed you MUST complete the entire mod.
    main jet, power up needle, snorkel and baffle.
    if the mod is not completed you will eventually burn the motor. :oops:

    of corse if your carb is filled with dirt then you must fix that first. ;)

    ok lets recap.
    1) you were not the one who installed the mod. (if i remember). so you really cant be sure if the jet and needle are the right ones.
    2) you have an after market pipe so it should not have a baffle,
    3) pull the snorkel and the ring that holds it in.
    4) you will want a free flowing replacement air filter (from Crf's Only). but a clean stock filter will work for now.

    if the bike runs like poh then i would buy and install a new power up kit from Honda. they are only $40.

    the power up mod is designed for a stock motor with a stock pipe. your bike (and mine) has a high prefomance pipe which is better than a stock pipe with the baffle removed. adjusting the fuel/air screw is the best way to retune to the new pipe. Honda has decided we are not to adjust the stock fuel/air screw with out first buying a special tool :evil: :twisted: .
    you can order from this link
    http://store.azmusa.com/07kma-mn9a100.html
    :o
    or here is another
    http://www.hondadirectlineusa.com/valky ... &ID=363114
    :shock: [-X

    but i recommend you toss the stock "D" type and replace it with...
    http://www.crfsonly.com/catalog/product ... 84322fa400
    :) :) :D :D =D> :!
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    by Aussiecrf230 » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:47 am

    It is easiest to check what main jet you have, so do that first. If that is done there maybe a Powerup kit installed.

    It only costs a little time and you need to check that first.

    Anything in the 125-135 range should be close enough to run once past idle.

    How does it run at half and full throttle?

    Definetly get idle mixture screw sorted as well.

    Then take it from there to make sure you have the right needle.
    Ray
    Australia

    CRF230F 2004
    C30F Power Up needle
    Mains 132
    Idle 45
    2 turns out
    Baffle out, Screens In

    It starts,it runs,it gets to where all CRFs can get to without the valve or valve plate dramas
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    by crf100rider21 » Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:22 pm

    it runs fine while givving it gas but somtimes it idles good and somtimes it won't idle and it pops

    how do i tell what the main get it?
    Ben

    Honda crf230
    big gun pipe
    Power up kit
    pro taper bars
    protaper bark busters

    Mazda b2300
    tinted windows
    custom sound system
    flo tec with dauls commin out the back
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    by RideRedForLife » Thu May 03, 2007 12:13 pm

    Is there any black stains around where your pipe is at the head? Mine was popping like that and it ended up being there was a very small exhaust leak at the head. I replaced the copper o-ring at the head pipe and it quit popping. Hope this helps...
    '05 CRF 230, '03 XR 70, '03 Honda RIncon 650
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    by acjjkamp » Thu May 03, 2007 12:27 pm

    crf100rider21 wrote:it runs fine while givving it gas but somtimes it idles good and somtimes it won't idle and it pops

    how do i tell what the main get it?


    almost sounds like an air leak, check the carb and make sure that the boots are seated correctly

    main jet: take the carb drain plug off, unscrew the jet (6mm i think) the jet size is on the jet
    Al


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    by crf100rider21 » Thu May 03, 2007 1:18 pm

    well now that it is hot out the bike runs alot better

    no more pops so i guess it is good
    Ben

    Honda crf230
    big gun pipe
    Power up kit
    pro taper bars
    protaper bark busters

    Mazda b2300
    tinted windows
    custom sound system
    flo tec with dauls commin out the back
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    by gal8x » Thu May 03, 2007 2:00 pm

    crf100rider21 wrote:well now that it is hot out the bike runs alot better

    no more pops so i guess it is good


    Another good example of why you NEED a fuel/air screw from Ken. You can make those adjustments for weather, on the fly.
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    by crf100rider21 » Thu May 03, 2007 3:15 pm

    well when i get some money i will look into buying one!
    Ben

    Honda crf230
    big gun pipe
    Power up kit
    pro taper bars
    protaper bark busters

    Mazda b2300
    tinted windows
    custom sound system
    flo tec with dauls commin out the back

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