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    by heybuddy1901 » Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:42 pm

    gearing is something that is a personal opinion and shouldnt be set in stone as you need XXX ratio for this bike
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    by [email protected] » Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:26 pm

    people on here are 15T nazis and will tell you that you will die without one..

    Uh,we are just trying to help folks out with something we learned from BBR and Rick Seiman, that's all. If you ride a 230 and don't feel the problem with the stock gearing then by all means stay on the begineers bikes, you're right where you should be. There's nothing wrong with them, but they are what they are and they are begineers play bikes.
    If you can't see the problem you are in no position to be telling anyone anything about gearing.

    i found a significant difference when i switched to my aluminum rear sprocket, and new non o-ring ch
    Really, did you now ? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
    So now you feel something nobody else can feel but your imagination, yet you bad mouth something a company like BBR or a legend like Rick Seiman suggests ? This really getting funny.
    Oh, the Power -Up needle is too rich ? :roll: :roll: Again, your uniqueness staggers us all. You really need to get a clue bud, because you're way,way off. Doug
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    by heybuddy1901 » Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:47 pm

    BBR the company that states

    "power and sound go hand-in-hand, don't let anybody tell you different." uh huh.... ill take their advice any day... maybe thats why my pipe is falling apart..

    well damn if dumping 3 lbs of crap off my driveline didnt help then hell i should take your advice and add some lead weight since apparently reducing unsprung weight doesnt do jack ...

    and until someone coughs up a couple hundred thousand for a dyno, well never know about the needle.

    [email protected] wrote:You really need to get a clue bud, because you're way,way off.

    coming from the person who doesnt even own a 230... :roll: please..
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    by [email protected] » Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:07 pm

    Hey,
    Do as you please by all means.
    Understand though we have new people on this site all the time, and if we read information that has long since been exposed as false, such as the o-ring chain causing more drag, we're going to differ with you.We don't want our new folks believing things that aren't accurate.
    The weight difference between an o-ring chain and a non-o-ring being 3 pounds , even including the lighter sprocket ? Better check that scale.
    By all means though, run what you want, believe what you want. If you post it though it's subject to challenge. Doug
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    by LadyMud » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:17 am

    hey hey hey gentlemen....
    :D
    At this particular moment, Im trying to find a sprocket that will fit best for me, in which i dont have to change the chain....for now.. but can still make a difference....
    or is it just better in gernal to change out the entire thing at once and final?

    on the needle, it just says c30f on itself... i mean i could give you the part number 16012-kps-921.

    Im trying to get honda to send me a service manual=), i feel like a newb hearing all this talk man....lol
    im also holding off on the bbkit just for abit. Probabaly do that within the week or so after i get the damn manual.
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    by [email protected] » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:35 am

    Either the 14 or 15t cs sprocket wil fit with your stock chain,and I wouln't sweat just slapping the new CS sprocket on.
    You'll probably have to move your axle all the way forward, and the 15t wil require moving a little material from your cs sprocket case guard, which will take you maybe 5 minutes with a Dremel with either a reingorced cutting disc or carbide cutter, either bit around 4-5 bucks and will go right through it.
    You'll be glad you took the time to get 'er done . :lol:
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    by gal8x » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:34 am

    LadyMud yo girl, whatup? (sorry about the in-fighting :roll: ).

    LadyMud wrote: Im trying to get honda to send me a service manual=), i feel like a newb hearing all this talk man....lol

    :lol: Don’t sweet it babe. 8)

    LadyMud wrote: got a new air filter, but for some reason there wasn’t an option for me to screw in the air filter the way they did, so i left the old one on...

    eh? That don’t make sense. Did you transfer the air filter holder to the new filter?
    If so then give me the brand name and a part number & I’ll see if you got the right one.

    LadyMud wrote: I also purchased new rev box..installed that...

    I liked mine too at first, but I did some testing and found the stock CDI to be better.
    I recommend you put the thing on Ebay and lets spend the money elsewhere.

    LadyMud wrote:and a new needle...i havent done that yet..i think that might take a little more effort to do..or just a bit more sunlight...and im not quite sure how to do that...i dont have the service manual..

    LadyMud wrote: on the needle, it just says c30f on itself... i mean i could give you the part number 16012-kps-921.

    Yes that is the power-up needle.
    The manual is a must.
    The needle is optional but you need to change the clip position if you are going to use the stock needle. Once you have the carb apart I would recommend you install the power needle, (Honda designed it and they do have the dynos and engineers to use them).

    Please note I don’t see where you installed a new main jet. You need to do so sooner than later. You do not want to create an overly lean condition in your fuel mixture.
    After that you will need to adjust the fuel/air screw to retune the carb. To do that you need to replace or modify the stock screw because it requires a special $100 tool.
    Try slipping something over it like a hose so you can turn it while the bike is running.

    LadyMud wrote: i would consider myself a slight bit aggressiveas a rider =)..so what do you suggest for the sprockets? change em both, or just keep the rear end?


    it depends on your style of ridding. If you want the bike to stand up on demand then I recommend the 428 conversion.
    If you want to take advantage of the 230s six speed gear box then by all means change the drive ratio. Start with a 14tooth primary. If you like it but want more then try a 15 tooth.
    I ride in mostly in woods, some open ground, some steep embankments. Wheelies are fun but I want more. That is why I also own a 450x.
    I have raced against my 450 and in the tight woods the 230 smokes it. (while you other guys are thinking it is all about the rider let me just tell you that my brother is a natural, he knows these woods as well as I do and he is by far the better rider).

    Some times our posts drift off topic but you came to the right place to lern about Honda bikes.

    Luck
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    by [email protected] » Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:14 pm

    Nice post gal8x...the usual :D Doug

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